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Kamstrup grusgrav (den på festivalen)


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Written on: 21.06.2009 19:04
Boris
Posts: 3
Jeg undrede mig over hvad planen var for den generende grusgrav og gjorde lidt research:

Juni 2006, Naturklagenævnet:
Roskilde Amt har ved afgørelse af 30. maj 2005 efter råstoflovens § 7
meddelt afslag til erhvervsmæssig indvinding af råstoffer på den nord-
lige del af ejendommen matr.nr. 15 a, Kamstrup By, Vor Frue, beliggende
i Roskilde Kommune. Indvinderen har påklaget afgørelsen til Naturklage-
nævnet.
...
Aktiviteterne på Dyrskuepladsen er af almindelig privatretlig interes-
se, og et afslag under hensyn hertil vil være at tilsidesætte én pri-
vatretlig interesse frem for en anden. Der er ikke hjemmel hertil i rå-
stofloven.
...
Naturklagenævnet ændrer på den baggrund amtets afslag til en tilladelse
til råstofgravning såvel over som under grundvandsspejlet, dog således
at sagen hjemvises til Roskilde Amt, med henblik på at det overlades
til amtet at fastsætte de nærmere vilkår for tilladelsen.

Kilde:
http://www2.nkn.dk/afg-2006/03-41-250-0011.pdf

Juni 2008, Teknik- og Miljøudvalget, Roskilde:
Nymølle Stenindustrier A/S har søgt om tilladelse til fortsat indvinding af
råstoffer på de nuværende gravearealer i Kamstrup Grusgrav. Den nuværende
tilladelse udløber den 1. august 2008. Arealet er delt op i 4 etaper, hvor der
søges om en 5-årig forlængelse på de 2 sydlige etaper og en 10-årig forlængelse
på de 2 nordlige etaper.

Forvaltningen indstiller, at der meddeles Nymølle Stenindustrier A/S tilladelse
til indvinding af råstoffer på matr.nr. 12a Kamstrup By, Vor Frue, frem til henholdsvis
31. december 2012 på etaperne 1 og 2 og frem til 1. juli 2018 på etape 3 og 4.
banghead.gif

Se kort for orientering:
http://www.roskildekom.dk/byraad_udvalg/TeknikogMiljoeudvalget/internet/juni/REF443-bilag/Bilag203111.PDF

Kilde:
http://www.roskildekom.dk/byraad_udvalg/TeknikogMiljoeudvalget/internet/juni/REF443.html
(pkt. 151)

[This article was edited 1 times, at last 21.06.2009 at 19:06.]
Written on: 21.06.2009 20:31
Mr. Monster
Posts: 944
Boris Bolvig Kjær skrev:

Juni 2008, Teknik- og Miljøudvalget, Roskilde:
Nymølle Stenindustrier A/S har søgt om tilladelse til fortsat indvinding af
råstoffer på de nuværende gravearealer i Kamstrup Grusgrav. Den nuværende
tilladelse udløber den 1. august 2008. Arealet er delt op i 4 etaper, hvor der
søges om en 5-årig forlængelse på de 2 sydlige etaper og en 10-årig forlængelse
på de 2 nordlige etaper.

Forvaltningen indstiller, at der meddeles Nymølle Stenindustrier A/S tilladelse
til indvinding af råstoffer på matr.nr. 12a Kamstrup By, Vor Frue, frem til henholdsvis
31. december 2012 på etaperne 1 og 2 og frem til 1. juli 2018 på etape 3 og 4.
banghead.gif

Se kort for orientering:
http://www.roskildekom.dk/byraad_udvalg/TeknikogMiljoeudvalget/internet/juni/REF443-bilag/Bilag203111.PDF

Kilde:
http://www.roskildekom.dk/byraad_udvalg/TeknikogMiljoeudvalget/internet/juni/REF443.html
(pkt. 151)


Thanks for the info, no matter how sad it might be.

But I'm not sure I understand it correctly. The pdf shows as far as I can see pretty much the status of the gravel pit right now.

So what's new? I don't understand though how that can keep digging that hole for the next 9 years (maybe that's new)

On the positive side this means that in the next five years
Written on: 22.06.2009 00:24
Boris
Posts: 3
yea I guess the sad part is, that we'll have to live with the pit filling in the prima-camping lots for the next 9 years.

I guess that's what comes out of an capitalistic structure of society where business comes before culture..

Btw there's an english version as well I just thought I'd bring the original excerpts to those who understand in stead of the ones I've translated in coorporation with Google..

[This article was edited 1 times, at last 22.06.2009 at 00:27.]
Written on: 22.06.2009 03:15
Saturnus
Posts: 3047
Boris Bolvig Kjær skrev:
I guess that's what comes out of an capitalistic structure of society where business comes before culture..


banghead.gif banghead.gif banghead.gif

I'm sure you know that the Råstofloven (Raw Material Law) was first passed in the Folketing in 1972 under the Socialist-Radical Left government led by Jens Otto Krag with votes from the Social Democratic party, the Peoples Socialist party and the Radical Left party.

The point of the law is to ensure that Denmark has as low reliance on importet raw materials. Gravel is a vital raw material used in road, railway, bridge, housing etc etc. Without gravel a society would come to a grinding halt. Unfortunately the area around Roskilde is some of the richest natural sources of gravel on Zealand.
Written on: 22.06.2009 10:52
Don Roberto
Posts: 342
Saturnus skrev:

I'm sure you know that the Råstofloven (Raw Material Law) was first passed in the Folketing in 1972 under the Socialist-Radical Left government led by Jens Otto Krag with votes from the Social Democratic party, the Peoples Socialist party and the Radical Left party.


That doesn't affect what Boris' said. Even then we lived in a capitalistic society, even though our government was social-democratic (which in many ways is a liberal ideology).


I agree that raw materials are extremely important for a society to work, but so are the cultural events.
Written on: 22.06.2009 11:01
Saturnus
Posts: 3047
Don Roberto skrev:

I agree that raw materials are extremely important for a society to work, but so are the cultural events.


I agree but cultural events can move, sources of raw materials can't. It only unfortunate circumstance that makes this an issue really.

The point of the law was to impose both restrictions on companies that produced raw materials to tell them where they can dig, and how much of the source can be exploited in each area. The other point of the law was to make sure that if a company got exploitation rights, that they were bound by law to exploit it at the agree price and in the amount agreed upon.

Before this law companies could freely exploit any land they owned without restriction, they could also wait for raw material prices to increase before expliting it, and since a vast majority of the gravel is used in public interest infrastructure projects that would mean the price would/could have sky rocketed.

The Råstofloven is very much a socialist idea.

[This article was edited 1 times, at last 22.06.2009 at 11:08.]
Written on: 23.06.2009 09:44
Trude Troldmyr
Posts: 8
Still, if it weren't for this, there wouldn't be lakes to swim and fish in.


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