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Written on: 12.06.2013 21:08
Jesper EH
Posts: 59
If any of the hipsters on this board didn't get enough shitty music during distortion, here is a guide for you (in danish, about 10 minutes in):

http://www.lorry.dk/artikel/166316?autoplay=1&video_id=80186
Written on: 12.06.2013 21:22
Martin Horn Pedersen
Official RF person
Posts: 1269
Come on.. don’t be like that. Why hate on groups of ppl or music taste? And what is hipster about this? And she is telling about 3 very different bands and also preasning Volbeat. The think weird is her "We don’t need Metallica" it is the fucking biggest booking all summer in Europe. And I don’t like Pernille Jensen at all normally, put I can´t see what is wrong here beside that? And again.. Drop the hate.. We don’t need that
Written on: 12.06.2013 22:17
I Like Turtles
Posts: 760
I really don't get Pernille Jensen. First she thinks that Volbeat is something we shouldn't have on top of the poster, because it makes Roskilde too similar to Grøn Koncert. http://politiken.dk/ibyen/nyheder/fokus/roskildefestival/ECE1948707/musikredaktoeren-roskilde-synger-med-paa-en-gammel-sang/ . And now she suddenly praises the booking of Volbeat in this interview. And "I don't need Metallica at Roskilde"??? Jesus christ! As Martin said, this is the biggest booking in Europe this summer. How can this not make a professional musicjournalist like her happy? Roskilde are really teaching the other festivals in Europe a lesson right now (The Rolling Stones at Glastonbury, I know, but still..). I really can't see how musicjournalists can criticize the quality of Roskilde this year. Are they still mad that Daft Punk aren't coming, even though they weren't available at all, as they never planned to tour anywhere
Written on: 12.06.2013 22:42
Psykruuse
Posts: 241
Music reviewers are the most redundant people in any industry. Dont EVER take them seriously. Wtf qualifies a certain individual to review music and then get the message out to thousands of people?
I can fucking do what Pernille Jensen does, np.
Written on: 12.06.2013 23:00
Jesper EH
Posts: 59
Ok, sorry about the shitty word.
BUT: She says that the poster is weak at the top this year - most people think this is wrong.
She says that Metallica and Kraftwerk doesn't matter, why? No argument. She has lots of time on air, come up with some arguments.
Her recommendations are: Savages, Discloure and Quardron. It's not the same genre, but in my opinion, they all have sort of the same attitude and appeal to the same kind of people. When she also requests Frank Ocean and recommends Efterklang, I'm pretty sure, she doesn't really have a diverse music taste at all.
She also praises Roskilde for having a very diverse programme this year. Personally, i think that is wrong, but this is much more up for debate than the argument about the top of the poster.
Written on: 12.06.2013 23:21
Martin Horn Pedersen
Official RF person
Posts: 1269
Psykruuse wrote:

Music reviewers are the most redundant people in any industry. Dont EVER take them seriously. Wtf qualifies a certain individual to review music and then get the message out to thousands of people?
I can fucking do what Pernille Jensen does, np.


So our are saying that you dont want reviews of concerts?
Written on: 12.06.2013 23:56
Psykruuse
Posts: 241
Martin Horn Pedersen wrote:

Psykruuse wrote:

Music reviewers are the most redundant people in any industry. Dont EVER take them seriously. Wtf qualifies a certain individual to review music and then get the message out to thousands of people?
I can fucking do what Pernille Jensen does, np.


So our are saying that you dont want reviews of concerts?


Its quite a paradox icon_lol.gif

That said the review can easily express the opposite of your own opinion of a certain concert. Best example for this is when Pernille Jensen gave Deadmau5 1 out of 6 stars in 2011. So yeah, its fun to read reviews but never take them seriously. Never think you are presented the truth or what actally went down in a certain show.
Written on: 12.06.2013 23:58
Jonathan Søgaard
Posts: 99
Oh my god she's horrible.

"I don't need to see Metallica". "I think Kraftwerk is a bit dull". Reflecting her own musical taste more than anything.
I'm not seeing Kraftwerk. I don't NEED to see Metallica either, but there can be no doubt that they are great bookings. Seriously. WTF???

Written on: 13.06.2013 00:02
Martin Horn Pedersen
Official RF person
Posts: 1269
Psykruuse wrote:

Martin Horn Pedersen wrote:

Psykruuse wrote:

Music reviewers are the most redundant people in any industry. Dont EVER take them seriously. Wtf qualifies a certain individual to review music and then get the message out to thousands of people?
I can fucking do what Pernille Jensen does, np.


So our are saying that you dont want reviews of concerts?


Its quite a paradox icon_lol.gif

That said the review can easily express the opposite of your own opinion of a certain concert. Best example for this is when Pernille Jensen gave Deadmau5 1 out of 6 stars in 2011. So yeah, its fun to read reviews but never take them seriously. Never think you are presented the truth or what actally went down in a certain show.


I agree with you on that a review is never 100% neutral or that it is a fact how many starts it has to get. But I do think that with most serious reviewers you get a decent picture of the show. But yeah at festivals if often becomes a problem that reviews are forced to review bands the don’t like/understand and that is a problem. And yes I am a reviewer (but no I don’t get payed to do it)
Written on: 13.06.2013 01:27
Niklas Birksted
Posts: 79
1st of all, hipster music? I'm thinking OPs either trolling, or just generally not very well informed. And as both Quadron and Disclosure are pretty mainstream bands, i really don't see it. But hey, it's easy to just add 'hipster-' to anything, and label it a certain way, so i guess i see where you're coming from...

2nd of all, when you hear Pernille speak or read what she's writing, you have to understand where she is coming from, for it to make sense to you. She is saying that she's looking forward to Metallica, but i could not agree more with her, that it would have been interesting to see a more progressive band. Just like Bruce last year, Metallica appeal to a pretty wide audience. It would be awesome to combine that appeal, with something a bit more challenging. I'm thinking obvious artists as Rage, Neil Young, Daft Punk or perhaps even Emimem. Also Frank Ocean and Major Lazer would fit the bill.

But in general, i must say this years programme, is close to the strongest i've ever seen.
Written on: 13.06.2013 01:52
Martin Horn Pedersen
Official RF person
Posts: 1269
Niklas Birksted wrote:

1st of all, hipster music? I'm thinking OPs either trolling, or just generally not very well informed. And as both Quadron and Disclosure are pretty mainstream bands, i really don't see it. But hey, it's easy to just add 'hipster-' to anything, and label it a certain way, so i guess i see where you're coming from...

2nd of all, when you hear Pernille speak or read what she's writing, you have to understand where she is coming from, for it to make sense to you. She is saying that she's looking forward to Metallica, but i could not agree more with her, that it would have been interesting to see a more progressive band. Just like Bruce last year, Metallica appeal to a pretty wide audience. It would be awesome to combine that appeal, with something a bit more challenging. I'm thinking obvious artists as Rage, Neil Young, Daft Punk or perhaps even Emimem. Also Frank Ocean and Major Lazer would fit the bill.

But in general, i must say this years programme, is close to the strongest i've ever seen.


Just buy saying Rage and Daft Punk all chance of taking your post seriuc is gone. If Roskilde had the fucking chance to booked them, they would had been at Roskilde, Rikke have said that a million times.

And Neil Young a more challenging act? come on... it is fine that you for some reason want to stand up for Pernille, no idea why.. but your post is just.. you can do better..you have spend a lot of time here... this is not facebook
Written on: 13.06.2013 11:50
Niklas Birksted
Posts: 79
Martin Horn Pedersen wrote:

Just buy saying Rage and Daft Punk all chance of taking your post seriuc is gone. If Roskilde had the fucking chance to booked them, they would had been at Roskilde, Rikke have said that a million times.


Im somewhere between 99.99999999 and 100% certain that you absolutely missed every point of what i wrote dude. This was never a discussion about which acts everyone wished Roskilde would book. I was trying to add big names, that has the same mainstream appeal as Bruce and Metallica does, but still isn't as 'average'. David Bowie would have been another name that would fit that bill. If you think i was just making yet another wishlist for what the programme should be, think again, i'm not gonna waste my time wishing, when i can explore. The bookers do such an awesome job and have done so again this year.

Martin Horn Pedersen wrote:

And Neil Young a more challenging act? come on... it is fine that you for some reason want to stand up for Pernille, no idea why.. but your post is just.. you can do better..you have spend a lot of time here... this is not facebook


I'm not really sure if that's you condescending, or what it is? If it is, please stop doing it, cos it's kinda offensive. However, to underline this again, i am in no way defending her, au contraire! But it seems rather unfair that people are attacking her, without even trying to understand what she's saying. And eventhough i don't really agree with her, i like her point and it's definitely valid.
Written on: 13.06.2013 12:01
Martin Horn Pedersen
Official RF person
Posts: 1269
You are using names that there was no chance that could have been booked to prove you point? Why? And now you say Bowie? It is just the same. It makes no scenes to me

I am saying that Neil Young is in no way a more challenging act. And that is the hole point in this you are dropping names that imo makes no scenes in the point you are trying to prove.

I am pretty sure people her know what Pernille is saying and coming from, but they disagree with her and as I Like Turtles posted, one day she thinks one think, and the next she have chanced it 100% (Volbeat)
Written on: 13.06.2013 12:44
Mr. Selfdestruct
Posts: 17
This is the best argument ever!
Written on: 13.06.2013 12:57
Torontomexicanmonkey
Posts: 93
Niklas Birksted wrote:

Just like Bruce last year, Metallica appeal to a pretty wide audience. It would be awesome to combine that appeal, with something a bit more challenging. I'm thinking obvious artists as Rage, Neil Young, Daft Punk or perhaps even Emimem. Also Frank Ocean and Major Lazer would fit the bill.


Are you kidding me? How is Neil Young more challenging than the headliners this year!? Also Rage, Daft Punk and Eminem seems completely irrellevant as they would have been impossible to book. I get that you were not making another wishlist, but what exactly is your point then? I'm probably misunderstanding you as well, but you my good sir are making no sense icon_lol.gif

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Written on: 13.06.2013 13:27
Jonathan Søgaard
Posts: 99
Torontomexicanmonkey wrote:

Niklas Birksted wrote:

Just like Bruce last year, Metallica appeal to a pretty wide audience. It would be awesome to combine that appeal, with something a bit more challenging. I'm thinking obvious artists as Rage, Neil Young, Daft Punk or perhaps even Emimem. Also Frank Ocean and Major Lazer would fit the bill.


Are you kidding me? How is Neil Young more challenging than the headliners this year!? Also Rage, Daft Punk and Eminem seems completely irrellevant as they would have been impossible to book. I get that you were not making another wishlist, but what exactly is your point then? I'm probably misunderstanding you as well, but you my good sir are making no sense icon_lol.gif


+1
Written on: 13.06.2013 13:55
Niklas Birksted
Posts: 79
This isn't about any of the names that could have been booked, it's about a valid point from Pernille, but it seems that me waving the rage+daftpunk-flag made everyone focus on what's possible, what's actual and what could be. Clearly, i did not consider the average reader of this forum, as everyone missed the point, my bad.

The point, however, is not if it's possible to book Daft Punk, Rage or any other band. It is not if Neil Young is a more challenging headliner than Metallica, and it's not about Frank Ocean or Major Lazer being in the lineup or not.

The point is that the top names of rf13, could have been more fitting and/or challenging for the festival than they are. Eventho both Metallica and Kraftwerk are big scoops, Pernille's got a good point that having at a headliner, who's a bit more progressive, would have suited a festival as upfront as Roskilde.
Written on: 13.06.2013 14:35
Jonathan Søgaard
Posts: 99
I agree with you, that she could have a point, that the headliners could be more fresh/challenging, but her argument is that Metallica is something she doesn't need to see / Kraftwerk is dull banghead.gif.

A headliner like Slipknot or The National or maybe QOTSA have been at Roskilde quite recently/frequently, and critique could go there and maybe reccomend a swith with e.g. Frank Ocean, but I really want to see proper arguments and realistique names with regards to the program. Who should be switched with who (realistiquely) and within reasonable cost to make the program fresher.

I would personally have skipped Slipknot for a name like e.g. Lazar/Ocean.



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Written on: 13.06.2013 14:35
Martin Horn Pedersen
Official RF person
Posts: 1269
Niklas Birksted wrote:

This isn't about any of the names that could have been booked, it's about a valid point from Pernille, but it seems that me waving the rage+daftpunk-flag made everyone focus on what's possible, what's actual and what could be. Clearly, i did not consider the average reader of this forum, as everyone missed the point, my bad.

The point, however, is not if it's possible to book Daft Punk, Rage or any other band. It is not if Neil Young is a more challenging headliner than Metallica, and it's not about Frank Ocean or Major Lazer being in the lineup or not.

The point is that the top names of rf13, could have been more fitting and/or challenging for the festival than they are. Eventho both Metallica and Kraftwerk are big scoops, Pernille's got a good point that having at a headliner, who's a bit more progressive, would have suited a festival as upfront as Roskilde.


Then give us some names. If we ignore that point about what bands that was possible to get, Major Lazer is the only name you are saying that is just a bit challenging. QOTSA, Sigur Ros and The National are at least as challenging. And I still think she is very wrong when she says: "I dont ned Metallica on Roskilde but it will be fun" Booking Metallica show Roskilde still have what is takes and that is importen and looks like all but you and Pernille agrees on that.

And Roskilde got 100+ names that is challenging, but no they are not headlining and so what? If a band is that challenging that might be awesome, but 99% of the time dont have what it takes to challenging
Written on: 13.06.2013 17:08
Niklas Birksted
Posts: 79
Jonathan Søgaard wrote:

I agree with you, that she could have a point, that the headliners could be more fresh/challenging, but her argument is that Metallica is something she doesn't need to see / Kraftwerk is dull banghead.gif.


Her argument is actually not just about Metallica or Kraftwerk, right in the beginning she says she feels the programme lacks a bit of depth among the headliners. Apart from that, i agree with what you and Pernille says, that Frank Ocean woulda been awesome.

As to which names could have been realistic, i know just as little about that, as anyone else in the forum, so i don't feel that's my place. Ask Pernille, maybe she's got some input.

Martin Horn Pedersen wrote:

Metallica on Roskilde but it will be fun" Booking Metallica show Roskilde still have what is takes and that is importen and looks like all but you and Pernille agrees on that.


Still really missing the point dude...
Written on: 13.06.2013 17:23
Martin Horn Pedersen
Official RF person
Posts: 1269
Niklas Birksted wrote:

Jonathan Søgaard wrote:

I agree with you, that she could have a point, that the headliners could be more fresh/challenging, but her argument is that Metallica is something she doesn't need to see / Kraftwerk is dull banghead.gif.


Her argument is actually not just about Metallica or Kraftwerk, right in the beginning she says she feels the programme lacks a bit of depth among the headliners. Apart from that, i agree with what you and Pernille says, that Frank Ocean woulda been awesome.

As to which names could have been realistic, i know just as little about that, as anyone else in the forum, so i don't feel that's my place. Ask Pernille, maybe she's got some input.

Martin Horn Pedersen wrote:

Metallica on Roskilde but it will be fun" Booking Metallica show Roskilde still have what is takes and that is importen and looks like all but you and Pernille agrees on that.


Still really missing the point dude...


No I am not missing the point.. you are avoiding standing up for what you posted. And why ask Pernille about names? It is you that is posting her and saying the same, then give us some challenging names. And tell us why we don’t need Metallica on Roskilde or say you was wrong.
Written on: 17.06.2013 10:56
Ruslabox
Posts: 168
Roskilde seriously needs to add a Pit Fight Zone to the camping area where all the hip people from this forum can go and fight over taste in music.
Written on: 17.06.2013 13:35
Jackster
Posts: 61
I don't think headliners should be risky. The headliners have the selling tickets mission so it's difficult to make experiments in that bill position.

Best electronic festival, Sonar, had Kraftwerk as headliners, and Metallica is headliner all over the world festivals (and a exclusive this summer in europe and ten years without coming to Roskilde), i don't know where is the problem on the bookings.

Sigur Ros is 7 years since their last visit and they've grown a lot but they'll play in the same Arena Stage.

The National have played in 2007 and 2010 increasing their popularity, maybe this is a bit risky, we'll see if organization is right or wrong.

QOTSA will headline Benicassim and it's 6 years since they don't come to roskilde.

Rihanna is a massive pop headliner and it's her first visit to Roskilde, and Volbeat is the most known Danish band right now outside Denmark.

Maybe Slipknot without new album is not so challenging, but they're playing very few shows in Europe this year...and they always sell tickets, they have a great fan base.

When I see the lineup of Werchter, often compared with Roskilde, cause it's over the same weekend, you can argue if you prefer their headliners or not, but i'm only jealeous of 4-5 names i wished they could have made to Roskilde (The Black Angels, Frank Ocean, Richard Hawley, Stereophonics or Alt-J) because they have never come in the last ten editions (the ones i've attended) and they're not headliners.

Roskilde don't make so many repetitions in their lineup (meaning each two years, with each tour, same bands come always to the festival) and i like that policy, even that means you'll lose big names each year that are in some other festivals over Europe (i.e.2013: Kings Of Leon, Portishead, Nick Cave, Vampire Weekend).

It would have been more risky to bring Blur, Phoenix, Mumford And Sons, Depeche Mode or The Rolling Stones as headliners?? I'm not sure.

Written on: 17.06.2013 14:03
Rockmus
Posts: 290
Jackster wrote:

I don't think headliners should be risky. The headliners have the selling tickets mission so it's difficult to make experiments in that bill position.

Best electronic festival, Sonar, had Kraftwerk as headliners, and Metallica is headliner all over the world festivals (and a exclusive this summer in europe and ten years without coming to Roskilde), i don't know where is the problem on the bookings.

Sigur Ros is 7 years since their last visit and they've grown a lot but they'll play in the same Arena Stage.

The National have played in 2007 and 2010 increasing their popularity, maybe this is a bit risky, we'll see if organization is right or wrong.

QOTSA will headline Benicassim and it's 6 years since they don't come to roskilde.

Rihanna is a massive pop headliner and it's her first visit to Roskilde, and Volbeat is the most known Danish band right now outside Denmark.

Maybe Slipknot without new album is not so challenging, but they're playing very few shows in Europe this year...and they always sell tickets, they have a great fan base.

When I see the lineup of Werchter, often compared with Roskilde, cause it's over the same weekend, you can argue if you prefer their headliners or not, but i'm only jealeous of 4-5 names i wished they could have made to Roskilde (The Black Angels, Frank Ocean, Richard Hawley, Stereophonics or Alt-J) because they have never come in the last ten editions (the ones i've attended) and they're not headliners.

Roskilde don't make so many repetitions in their lineup (meaning each two years, with each tour, same bands come always to the festival) and i like that policy, even that means you'll lose big names each year that are in some other festivals over Europe (i.e.2013: Kings Of Leon, Portishead, Nick Cave, Vampire Weekend).

It would have been more risky to bring Blur, Phoenix, Mumford And Sons, Depeche Mode or The Rolling Stones as headliners?? I'm not sure.




I agree with you - but I like when they take some chances in who they announce as headliners, i.e. I could have seen James Blake take a headliner position, just as M.I.A. did a couple years ago. My point is not that we should have any other names (of course mr Ocean or Mr Lazer would've been nice), but I like it when they take a band on a way to stardom and put it at the top of the poster, and maybe they could've put Slipknot into the Subliners because it has been some years since they were last relevant ...but maybe this talk is just nonsense? icon_wink.gif


oh and all that hipster hate is just stupid... it has end up defining almost everyone who cares about new music - and why the hate for Distortion? That is a very funny party.

I think I actually agree with some of Pernille's points, but not her way of arguing. But it was some great recommendations she gave if you ask me. (but she should shut the fuck up about Metallica being booked!)

@Niklas Birksted - seeing this from the outside Martin is right, you're the one who are avoiding the questions.
Written on: 17.06.2013 14:26
Niklas Birksted
Posts: 79
Rockmus wrote:

I like it when they take a band on a way to stardom and put it at the top of the poster

I think I actually agree with some of Pernille's points, but not her way of arguing. But it was some great recommendations she gave if you ask me. (but she should shut the fuck up about Metallica being booked!)

@Niklas Birksted - seeing this from the outside Martin is right, you're the one who are avoiding the questions.


You said anything i tried to say, only better.

And to clear up a bit, i didn't try to avoid answering, my opinion was just irrelevant to the argument, as it was about underlining a solid point made by Pernille, that was clouded by her (and arguably, mine as well) way of arguing. I didn't really feel saying the same thing, for a 4th straight time would benefit anyone.

Also, i never said i agreed with Pernille, actually in my very first post in this topic, i underline how happy i am about the lineup and i stand by that. I've never seen Metallica live, and i look forward to it. But after Pernille mentioned it, i cannot stop wondering, if a better match for Metallica, is an actual concert, like Forum, Horsens, Parken or any other venue they've played in recent years.

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