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Roskilde - a safe space for sexual haraassment


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Written on: 11.07.2013 11:05
Ul
Posts: 6
That roskilde festival is not a particular safe place for women should not come as a surprice for anyone, but this year took the cake, with a young volunteer bragging in the news of his plan to systematically serial violate women, and the festival doing nothing but a wishy-washy "bad boy for saying that in the media" press release!

I've written something, it's time for us to pressure roskilde into putting their"we're socially respomsible" words into action.

SOrry that it's in danish

Written on: 11.07.2013 11:28
Saturnus
Posts: 3047
This is meant sarcastically, right? Otherwise, it's not the same festival we went to.

Are you sure, you didn't take too many drugs and was at a festival in Poland or something instead?
Written on: 11.07.2013 11:40
Ul
Posts: 6
I was at roskilde, the festival where every single girl I talked with about this issue had stories of being sexually violated at the festival. Where I couldn't walk through the camping site without noticing at least one girl getting groped against her wishes. Where the festival did jack shit to deal with this. Where I was at the feminist meeting and saw 50 women sit quiet when asked 'has any of you ever talked with a women at the festival, that didn't have a story of sexual violation at the festival to tell?' - not a one of them had such a story.

That some people cose their eyes, doesn't make it less of a problem.
Written on: 11.07.2013 13:06
Coldblooded
Posts: 1186
I don't really recognise the picture, you're painting here. I am a man, yes, but I've attended the festival with a very female-dominated camp for the past six years. This year the scales tipped even more, since I was the only guy left in the camp along with fifteen girls, whom I'd all gauge to be moderately to very attractive to most people. I have never, ever heard such stories in their company.

In fact, the only harassment we've had to suffer this year was that one of the members of the camp, a girl who stands about 200 cm. tall, constantly had drunkards asking her to have their picture taken next to her. Which is kinda just as hurtful as the harassment you describe, but it is hardly sexually oriented.

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Written on: 11.07.2013 15:02
Ul
Posts: 6
Coldblooded, do they know you would listen without saying 'lighten up, it's just a joke!'?

Try asking them directly, post my link and ask 'is this in any way accurate? Did I just miss everything, or is the guy a lunatic?' - I think you'll be surprised. Because often people don't feel comfortable sharing with this, but as I said, I've never met a woman on roskilde that didn't have their own stories of sexual harassment. Nor met any women that knew any other women that didn't have one.
Written on: 11.07.2013 15:34
Cathrine
Posts: 48
Well here you have one! Was my third year at Roskilde Festival, and I've been to quite a few before.
I'm atleast told I'm attractive, so I guess I don't scare anyone away.
I have NEVER been sexually harassed at Roskilde. Hell, I even walked around in a Princess Leia bikini, and I didn't experience it! (btw Saturnus, hope no one stole your phone!)

I had a guy come up to me and ask for a hug, because "gud vad du er sød!" or something like that. I've had people come up to me in very nice ways because they wanted to get to know me, tell me I'm pretty, etc. I get soo many hugs at Roskilde, and I think its wonderful! HUGS, not someone trying to grope my ass or anything.

Only negative thing to ever happen to me at Roskilde, was during the Slipknot concert when one guy took it to far. I just poured a glass of water on him and told him to cool down. He backed off and apologized. Sure, some might call it sexual harassment, but I honestly don't. He was drunk and flirty, and he misunderstood. That happens. I put him straight in a non-violent way.

I have however been to other festivals where I've experienced being called a whore, bitch etc because I didn't feel like talking to someone. I've had my ass grabbed by randoms, I've been pushed to a wall, I've had tons of those experiences at smaller, shorter festivals. Never at Roskilde. These things happen more or less every time I go out in my hometown, which is just slightly more populated than Roskilde. It even happened at the airport leaving cph, but not at Roskilde.

Sure it happens. There is a ton of people, and some are bound to be assholes, drunk, and straight up idiots. But not all, and I sure don't consider it a serious problem at Roskilde. I know many girls going to Roskilde too, and have never heard a single one mention anything like this. We've even talked about it!
So I don't think this is a HUGE problem at Roskilde, and I don't think there is anything wrong with the festival itself. Society has issues, and they will follow along wherever people go.
It might be good for the festival to have something in the camp codex, Orange press etc about being nice and respecting others, also women, though. That I do agree on, simply because.. Well, good manners never hurt and it shouldn't be happening at all. It's sad that it does, but don't blame all of Roskilde, because its just not true.

Never saw anything about that volunteer, if you have a link please post it.
Written on: 11.07.2013 16:36
Ul
Posts: 6
I'm happy that not everyone has experienced this, a great deal of people do however

Info on the volunteer guy, named Tobias, here: www.bt.dk/danmark/facebook-brugere-raser-vagt-paa-roskilde-vil-paa-roevtogt-under-koncert

WHich was followed by press release by roskilde festival with nothing but weasel words.
Written on: 11.07.2013 16:56
Cathrine
Posts: 48
Well, I hope he's the guard that the guy from Slipknot punched. 18 year old boys will always be fools, but luckily there are tons of decent guys at Roskilde too, and I don't think any attitudes will be changed by blaming everyone.
Written on: 11.07.2013 18:06
Saturnus
Posts: 3047
Cathrine wrote:
Hell, I even walked around in a Princess Leia bikini, and I didn't experience it! (btw Saturnus, hope no one stole your phone!)


Nope. Still safe and sound. Sorry, I didn't make it back but the guys (and girls) in my camp loved it. Thumbs up for a very well made slave girl outfit.
Written on: 12.07.2013 00:12
Coldblooded
Posts: 1186
Ul wrote:

Coldblooded, do they know you would listen without saying 'lighten up, it's just a joke!'?

Try asking them directly, post my link and ask 'is this in any way accurate? Did I just miss everything, or is the guy a lunatic?' - I think you'll be surprised. Because often people don't feel comfortable sharing with this, but as I said, I've never met a woman on roskilde that didn't have their own stories of sexual harassment. Nor met any women that knew any other women that didn't have one.

I think they know that I would listen seriously, being a feminist myself. A good deal of them have confided private things to me, but none of them has been sexism-related harassment at Roskilde.

What link? I can't see any link. Are you Marco Malcorps from facebook?

I also don't think you're being entirely fair when lambasting the press release from Roskilde on the volunteer debacle and branding it 'weasel words'. To me it read like a balanced and fair response to unacceptable behaviour.

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Written on: 12.07.2013 10:55
Maja
Posts: 27
when I read your headline "ROSKILDE - A SAFE SPACE FOR SEXUAL HARASSMENT", I nodded in agreement thinking it meant the opposite of what you meant. I've never experienced sexual harassment at Roskilde (been there 4 years now). I have experienced it on a few occasions on normal weekends when out on the town.

Not trying to be offensive but I really, really can't see where you're coming from. I'm a feminist, but not the kind that goes to meetings. I don't know if you just got unlucky in meeting and overseeing the small number of people feeling like they experienced sexual harassment, but I would guess the difference lies in our point of view, and that you will experience a lot of things like sexual harassment where ever you go.




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Written on: 12.07.2013 16:24
Martin Horn Pedersen
Official RF person
Posts: 1194
To Ul (and others) - here is a respons from the festival:

Of course we shouldn't accept sexism at Roskilde Festival. We know that it does take place, but we haven't experienced it as an extensive matter. That being said, one incident is just as serious a matter as one million – but we we haven't heard about that many incidents (maybe because they weren't reported?).

You should know that we have a tolerance team - which is our way of dealing with such matters. They're a qualified personnel who contact the people in question and have a serious talk with them.

If you have other suggestions as to how to handle such matters even better, we'd love to hear them. As long as they're based on openness and dialogue instead of simple condemnation. That's the idea behind starting up the tolerance team.

We're open to doing more if we can find the right approach, and we'd love to hear your input. To collect all inputs and to make sure they get to the right people, please do send an e-mail to inforoskilde-festival[dot]dk - as of now we're evaluating and considering what can be done next year, so now's your window.
Written on: 12.07.2013 16:32
Saturnus
Posts: 3047
Maja wrote:

when I read your headline "ROSKILDE - A SAFE SPACE FOR SEXUAL HARASSMENT", I nodded in agreement thinking it meant the opposite of what you meant. I've never experienced sexual harassment at Roskilde (been there 4 years now).


I agree completely. That's why I wrote that the poster must be talking about a different festival. Roskilde is renowned for it's openness and tolerance, and that everyone can have good time.

Roskilde is not like other festivals, your average weekend out in a large town, or Sunny beach where this happens on a regular basis. Roskilde attracts a far more mature and sophisticated audience.
Written on: 13.07.2013 14:13
Eef
Posts: 289
In my 5th year of Roskilde I never got harrased.. ok sometimes some really drunk person ends up in your tent because he doesn't know the way home. icon_smile.gificon_smile.gif hahaha.

But noo never had such a thing.
Written on: 13.07.2013 19:04
that-guy
Posts: 1
i see what "Ul" is talking about, a girl in my camp kept complaining about people, (mostly girls actually,but not exclusively) grabbing her ass.
but she finally gave up and wanted to leave the concert when a guy got a good feel right up her crotch.
Dont know how widely spread this kind of behaviour is, but it do infact happen, probably more then some realize
Written on: 15.07.2013 23:25
Cathrine
Posts: 48
Saturnus wrote:

Cathrine wrote:
Hell, I even walked around in a Princess Leia bikini, and I didn't experience it! (btw Saturnus, hope no one stole your phone!)


Nope. Still safe and sound. Sorry, I didn't make it back but the guys (and girls) in my camp loved it. Thumbs up for a very well made slave girl outfit.


Haha wonderful! Thanks icon_smile.gif It was good fun walking around in, will have to take it for a longer walk next year! (also making an improved version next year)


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Written on: 16.07.2013 11:55
Eef
Posts: 289
I have to see that next year!


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