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Written on: 07.04.2012 18:49
Emil Asbjørn Madsen
Posts: 93
Machine Head - They're playing at Sonisphere in France 7th - 8th july, leaving them open for thursday and friday.

Foo Fighters - Have no shows in Europe until August, and their US-tour ends in May. Free spot for Roskilde?

Skrillex - Playing both T in the park in England and Rock for people in Czech Republic in the Roskilde-period, he might as well show up here.

Franz Ferdinand - Playing Rock for people and Open'er festival, they are around and could be a sub/headliner.


What do you think? Could these acts fit Roskilde in their programme, and what acts do you think could end up being headliners after the big poster-release?

[This article was edited 1 times, at last 07.04.2012 at 19:06.]
Written on: 07.04.2012 23:13
I Like Turtles
Posts: 760
I think that Machine Head will be announced. They should! Could be a cheap headliner that will please almost the entire metalcrowd. Roskilde can't ignore them after their amazing last record. That's probably why they weren't announced for Copenhell. I know they play other concerts on both days of the metalfestival, but I also think it's because of an ongoing dialogue with Roskilde..

I don't count on Foo Fighters. No dates makes it pretty hard.. They also played our part of Europe at about the same time last year..

Skrillex plays in Copenhagen in May, and it's not even sold out yet.. Don't count on him either..

Franz Ferdinand could be a possibility. But they will surely headline like they did in 06
Written on: 08.04.2012 00:18
skallgrimsson
Posts: 1120
Bruce Springsteen
Björk
The Cure
The Roots

------

and then...

Pulp
Sigur Rós
+ some other band

well that is the dream at least... and the bands are on tour

[This article was edited 1 times, at last 08.04.2012 at 00:19.]
Written on: 08.04.2012 08:18
Bongo Anders
Posts: 1154
What about Krauss and White, are they only subliners.
Written on: 08.04.2012 08:51
Coldblooded
Posts: 1229
skallgrimsson wrote:

Bruce Springsteen
Björk
The Cure
The Roots

------

and then...

Pulp
Sigur Rós
+ some other band

well that is the dream at least... and the bands are on tour

Sigur Rós aren't. At least not during Roskilde.
Written on: 09.04.2012 08:13
Thorbjørn
Posts: 100
Coldblooded wrote:

skallgrimsson wrote:

Bruce Springsteen
Björk
The Cure
The Roots

------

and then...

Pulp
Sigur Rós
+ some other band

well that is the dream at least... and the bands are on tour

Sigur Rós aren't. At least not during Roskilde.

Indeed. Sigur Rós will only start their tour in August, so no Roskilde.

Are The Roots really going to headline?

My guess would be something like:

Bruce Springsteen
Björk
The Cure
Jack White(?)
Machine Head
The Roots(?)
Pulp/Suede
Mew(?)

Not sure Jack White, Mew or The Roots will headline. Obviously Jack White would have to be booked first, but it seems more like an announcement is all that's left in that. He's a perfect fit for the festival and it fits his tour schedule perfectly. Mew might headline as an 8th headliner - the slightly smaller Danish act, just like Nephew/Trentemøller etc. have done previous years.

Machine Head seems like an obvious metal headliner. Not really sure who else would take it as most big metal artists touring this summer seem to have been booked for Copenhell.

I really hope either Pulp or Suede will make it to Roskilde. Pulp seem a bit busy during Roskilde with gigs in Finland on the 6th and Romania on the 8th, and judging from their tour schedule, they don't seem too happy about travelling and playing 2 consecutive nights, but who knows. Suede are playing in England on the 1st July, so getting them to Roskilde might not be the hardest thing. Even better: get them both.

Franz Ferdinand could be up there instead of Pulp/Suede/The Roots/Jack White/Mew, but since they haven't released anything since 2009 and their new record seems unlikely to land before Roskilde kicks off, I'm not so sure about them.

I don't think Alison Krauss would be headline material to be honest, except if we have another lack of names like last year.

[This article was edited 1 times, at last 09.04.2012 at 08:17.]
Written on: 09.04.2012 14:23
The Rehabilitation of Luis Suarez
Posts: 2506
Thorbjørn wrote:

Coldblooded wrote:

skallgrimsson wrote:

Bruce Springsteen
Björk
The Cure
The Roots

------

and then...

Pulp
Sigur Rós
+ some other band

well that is the dream at least... and the bands are on tour

Sigur Rós aren't. At least not during Roskilde.

Indeed. Sigur Rós will only start their tour in August, so no Roskilde.

Are The Roots really going to headline?

My guess would be something like:

Bruce Springsteen
Björk
The Cure
Jack White(?)
Machine Head
The Roots(?)
Pulp/Suede
Mew(?)

Not sure Jack White, Mew or The Roots will headline. Obviously Jack White would have to be booked first, but it seems more like an announcement is all that's left in that. He's a perfect fit for the festival and it fits his tour schedule perfectly. Mew might headline as an 8th headliner - the slightly smaller Danish act, just like Nephew/Trentemøller etc. have done previous years.

Machine Head seems like an obvious metal headliner. Not really sure who else would take it as most big metal artists touring this summer seem to have been booked for Copenhell.

I really hope either Pulp or Suede will make it to Roskilde. Pulp seem a bit busy during Roskilde with gigs in Finland on the 6th and Romania on the 8th, and judging from their tour schedule, they don't seem too happy about travelling and playing 2 consecutive nights, but who knows. Suede are playing in England on the 1st July, so getting them to Roskilde might not be the hardest thing. Even better: get them both.

Franz Ferdinand could be up there instead of Pulp/Suede/The Roots/Jack White/Mew, but since they haven't released anything since 2009 and their new record seems unlikely to land before Roskilde kicks off, I'm not so sure about them.

I don't think Alison Krauss would be headline material to be honest, except if we have another lack of names like last year.


At their peak The Roots wouldn't have been big enough to headline. What have they done since? House band for a US TV shows that is not being aired in Europe?

Not for me, thanks. They are a solid sublining act, not even one of the biggest of such in my opinion.

I dig them personally btw, but they shouldn't headline. They would draw less people than Mastodon who last year actually was riding somewhat of a wave.

And Mew? Jizz, is this what it has become to?

RF must do better.

I'd go along with Jack White, grudgingly, being capable of pulling of the Orange, although he is much better suited for Arene. With the White Stripes it would have been a different story in terms of how many people would see the show.

I agree with you Torbjørn. RF must surely have something up their sleeves.

[This article was edited 1 times, at last 09.04.2012 at 14:26.]
Written on: 09.04.2012 14:45
Coldblooded
Posts: 1229
I'm not too skeptical about Jack White as a headliner, after hearing about 'Blunderbuss' which is out real soon. Supposedly it is his greatest work to date, even overshadowing the White Stripes albums. And, as has been pointed out before, he could headline and still play Arena.

[This article was edited 1 times, at last 09.04.2012 at 14:50.]
Written on: 09.04.2012 15:02
Emil Asbjørn Madsen
Posts: 93
Robbie Fowler is God wrote:

Thorbjørn wrote:

Coldblooded wrote:

skallgrimsson wrote:

Bruce Springsteen
Björk
The Cure
The Roots

------

and then...

Pulp
Sigur Rós
+ some other band

well that is the dream at least... and the bands are on tour

Sigur Rós aren't. At least not during Roskilde.

Indeed. Sigur Rós will only start their tour in August, so no Roskilde.

Are The Roots really going to headline?

My guess would be something like:

Bruce Springsteen
Björk
The Cure
Jack White(?)
Machine Head
The Roots(?)
Pulp/Suede
Mew(?)

Not sure Jack White, Mew or The Roots will headline. Obviously Jack White would have to be booked first, but it seems more like an announcement is all that's left in that. He's a perfect fit for the festival and it fits his tour schedule perfectly. Mew might headline as an 8th headliner - the slightly smaller Danish act, just like Nephew/Trentemøller etc. have done previous years.

Machine Head seems like an obvious metal headliner. Not really sure who else would take it as most big metal artists touring this summer seem to have been booked for Copenhell.

I really hope either Pulp or Suede will make it to Roskilde. Pulp seem a bit busy during Roskilde with gigs in Finland on the 6th and Romania on the 8th, and judging from their tour schedule, they don't seem too happy about travelling and playing 2 consecutive nights, but who knows. Suede are playing in England on the 1st July, so getting them to Roskilde might not be the hardest thing. Even better: get them both.

Franz Ferdinand could be up there instead of Pulp/Suede/The Roots/Jack White/Mew, but since they haven't released anything since 2009 and their new record seems unlikely to land before Roskilde kicks off, I'm not so sure about them.

I don't think Alison Krauss would be headline material to be honest, except if we have another lack of names like last year.


At their peak The Roots wouldn't have been big enough to headline. What have they done since? House band for a US TV shows that is not being aired in Europe?

Not for me, thanks. They are a solid sublining act, not even one of the biggest of such in my opinion.

I dig them personally btw, but they shouldn't headline. They would draw less people than Mastodon who last year actually was riding somewhat of a wave.

And Mew? Jizz, is this what it has become to?

RF must do better.

I'd go along with Jack White, grudgingly, being capable of pulling of the Orange, although he is much better suited for Arene. With the White Stripes it would have been a different story in terms of how many people would see the show.

I agree with you Torbjørn. RF must surely have something up their sleeves.


I still think Mew could headline. They are perhaps the most respected danish bands around, even more than Nephew imo, and they have a broad audience. So Mew as a headliner would not be that bad in my opinion, even though I hope for bigger bands to fill their spot on the headliners.

Jack White could headline. He has almost status of a legend, especially after White Stripes.

With Faith No More playing Sonisphere in France, they could, if we're lucky, serve as a headliner.

Also, I discovered that Duran Duran have no dates between June 28 and July 16, both shows being in Europe. One could wonder icon_wink.gif

So we can possibly hope for a lineup like this:

Björk
Bruce
The Cure
Machine Head
Pulp
Faith No More
Duran Duran
Jack White

That way we get both The Roots and Mew to be subliners, henceforth rock n'roll!
Written on: 09.04.2012 15:06
Wallu
Posts: 712
The reason I see The Roots as a headliner is based purely on that idea, that quality counts too, not just record-sales. Patti Smith was a headliner in 2010, with only a handful of people in front of Orange stage. She did a great job, and her name still looks good with big print on that poster.

It´s true that the Roots are not that big, but Roskilde lifted Mastodon last year, from semi-known band to Orange-stage headliner, and it seemed to work.

Personally I wanna see the Roots on Arena, so I would like them to subline. It´s just that I think they deserve to headline based on the things I said before.
Written on: 09.04.2012 16:04
Thorbjørn
Posts: 100
I couldn't argue against Mew headlining. I always think it's nice to see local band names high on the bill, and to be fair Mew is probably the biggest Danish band of the last decade.

I would be very pleased with the lineup Emil posted. Pulp, Machine Head and Jack White would be obvious bookings. Not so sure about Faith No More. It's only been 3 years since they played and they haven't released anything new. But that gig in 2009 was still a real special one, and I certainly wouldn't mind seeing them again. I wasn't even aware Duran Duran were touring until now. Well. They're almost an obvious booking as well.

But is it realistic to expect 4 headliners announced on the 19th? Probably not. I guess time will tell. Maybe take Faith No More & 1 other act (Pulp/Duran Duran?) and put in Mew and that would be my guess for the 19th. Then add another headliner before the actual festival.
Written on: 09.04.2012 18:15
The Rehabilitation of Luis Suarez
Posts: 2506
Coldblooded wrote:

I'm not too skeptical about Jack White as a headliner, after hearing about 'Blunderbuss' which is out real soon. Supposedly it is his greatest work to date, even overshadowing the White Stripes albums. And, as has been pointed out before, he could headline and still play Arena.


Headliners surely is about a big following and the quality of their music where the first comes first. Jack White would probably not draw a big crowd at Orange. I agree he could headline and play Arena (as that has happened before) but it doesn't seem right to me. Basically one is saying that the headliners are not big enough to pull a big crowd. Then what is the point of headliners?



[This article was edited 1 times, at last 09.04.2012 at 18:20.]
Written on: 09.04.2012 18:19
The Rehabilitation of Luis Suarez
Posts: 2506
Wallu wrote:

The reason I see The Roots as a headliner is based purely on that idea, that quality counts too, not just record-sales. Patti Smith was a headliner in 2010, with only a handful of people in front of Orange stage. She did a great job, and her name still looks good with big print on that poster.

It´s true that the Roots are not that big, but Roskilde lifted Mastodon last year, from semi-known band to Orange-stage headliner, and it seemed to work.

Personally I wanna see the Roots on Arena, so I would like them to subline. It´s just that I think they deserve to headline based on the things I said before.


I don't understand your opinion. Is headlining Roskilde supposed to be some kind of "we respect your work" thingy? To me headliners are the big guns that pull the majority to come to the festival and who can play the Orange, get a huge crowd and throw a party. I am pretty sure that's how the festival itself looks at it.

Mastodon last year only showed that the band wasn't ready to do the above, and it did certainly not cement them as a huge band. There were a lot less people than the festival hoped and that only looks bad.

There are a lot of bands who "deserve" a bigger recognition. If we go by what you say then basically anyone can headline as long as they make quality music. It's a novel thought, but it is not how the real world works unfortunately.

Getting to headline is not a charity

[This article was edited 1 times, at last 11.04.2012 at 09:28.]
Written on: 09.04.2012 18:44
Wallu
Posts: 712
Robbie Fowler is God wrote:

Coldblooded wrote:

I'm not too skeptical about Jack White as a headliner, after hearing about 'Blunderbuss' which is out real soon. Supposedly it is his greatest work to date, even overshadowing the White Stripes albums. And, as has been pointed out before, he could headline and still play Arena.


Headliners surely is about a big following and the quality of their music where the first comes first. Jack White would probably not draw a big crowd at Orange. I agree he could headline and play Arena (as that has happened before) but it doesn't seem right to me. Basically one is saying that the headliners are not big enough to pull a big crowd. Then what is the point of headliners?




That´s fair, but one has to bear in mind, that there aren´t as many big bands out there as there used to be. I don´t see that last year we missed out on so many great big acts who could´ve been available (only Coldplay comes to mind, and my humble opinion is, that we could have missed them in 09 too.. Sorry. icon_wink.gif). Orange stage has to be filled with something, and it´s getting harder with less bands of that size. We can´t have Metallica and RHCP every year (and in their current form, any year..)

As for Jack White, I compare his playing Orange, to Them Crooked Vultures, that worked out fine. The Roots are too small to play Orange, I get that now, but I sincerely wish the bookers the best finding enough acts to fill Orange if we´ve only got Bruce, Björk, The Cure and Mew by now.
Written on: 09.04.2012 19:00
Wallu
Posts: 712
Robbie Fowler is God wrote:

Wallu wrote:

The reason I see The Roots as a headliner is based purely on that idea, that quality counts too, not just record-sales. Patti Smith was a headliner in 2010, with only a handful of people in front of Orange stage. She did a great job, and her name still looks good with big print on that poster.

It´s true that the Roots are not that big, but Roskilde lifted Mastodon last year, from semi-known band to Orange-stage headliner, and it seemed to work.

Personally I wanna see the Roots on Arena, so I would like them to subline. It´s just that I think they deserve to headline based on the things I said before.


I don't understand your opinion. Is headlining Roskilde supposed to be some kind of "we respect your work" thingy? To me headliners are the big guns that pull the majority to come to the festival and who can play the Orange, get a huge crowd and throw a party. I am pretty sure that's how the festival itself looks at it.

Mastodon last year only showed that the band wasn't ready to do the above, and it did certainly not cement them as a huge band. There were a lot less people than the festival hoped and that only looks bad.

There are a lot of bands who "deserve" a bigger recognition. If we go by what you say then basically anyone can headline as long as they make quality music. It's a novel though, but it is not how the real world works unfortunately.

Getting to headline is not a charity


Maybe we should go for 3-4 headliners then instead of 8-9. I like the fact that there are many, and some are lifted to that position by the festival regardless of not being "that big", but maybe that´s just me.
Written on: 09.04.2012 19:06
The Rehabilitation of Luis Suarez
Posts: 2506
Wallu wrote:

Robbie Fowler is God wrote:

Coldblooded wrote:

I'm not too skeptical about Jack White as a headliner, after hearing about 'Blunderbuss' which is out real soon. Supposedly it is his greatest work to date, even overshadowing the White Stripes albums. And, as has been pointed out before, he could headline and still play Arena.


Headliners surely is about a big following and the quality of their music where the first comes first. Jack White would probably not draw a big crowd at Orange. I agree he could headline and play Arena (as that has happened before) but it doesn't seem right to me. Basically one is saying that the headliners are not big enough to pull a big crowd. Then what is the point of headliners?




That´s fair, but one has to bear in mind, that there aren´t as many big bands out there as there used to be. I don´t see that last year we missed out on so many great big acts who could´ve been available (only Coldplay comes to mind, and my humble opinion is, that we could have missed them in 09 too.. Sorry. icon_wink.gif). Orange stage has to be filled with something, and it´s getting harder with less bands of that size. We can´t have Metallica and RHCP every year (and in their current form, any year..)

As for Jack White, I compare his playing Orange, to Them Crooked Vultures, that worked out fine. The Roots are too small to play Orange, I get that now, but I sincerely wish the bookers the best finding enough acts to fill Orange if we´ve only got Bruce, Björk, The Cure and Mew by now.


Fair enough mate, but:

Why do you say there are less big artists than before? I don't believe that for a second mate. In fact, in terms of quality music it is easier to get a following than ever before, and new legends (RATM, Soundgarden etc etc) are touring all the time.

Back when RF was really hot and band like RATM where up and coming headliners, while now they would be legends and draw an even bigger crowd. And so the circle goes.

I personally think the problem is more the festival reluctance to look backwards, than the lack of big guns. This year is a bit different with Bruce and The Cure.

They would be wise to sign Suede who used to be synonym with the festival when they where really hot in the 90's. The festival could really milk this and I am sure it would be a rather inexpensive headliner who would draw a big crowd.

I think the festival is overlooking way to many potential headliners because of a certain profile they have desperately tried to achieve lately.

[This article was edited 1 times, at last 09.04.2012 at 19:08.]
Written on: 09.04.2012 19:13
The Rehabilitation of Luis Suarez
Posts: 2506
Wallu wrote:

Robbie Fowler is God wrote:

Wallu wrote:

The reason I see The Roots as a headliner is based purely on that idea, that quality counts too, not just record-sales. Patti Smith was a headliner in 2010, with only a handful of people in front of Orange stage. She did a great job, and her name still looks good with big print on that poster.

It´s true that the Roots are not that big, but Roskilde lifted Mastodon last year, from semi-known band to Orange-stage headliner, and it seemed to work.

Personally I wanna see the Roots on Arena, so I would like them to subline. It´s just that I think they deserve to headline based on the things I said before.


I don't understand your opinion. Is headlining Roskilde supposed to be some kind of "we respect your work" thingy? To me headliners are the big guns that pull the majority to come to the festival and who can play the Orange, get a huge crowd and throw a party. I am pretty sure that's how the festival itself looks at it.

Mastodon last year only showed that the band wasn't ready to do the above, and it did certainly not cement them as a huge band. There were a lot less people than the festival hoped and that only looks bad.

There are a lot of bands who "deserve" a bigger recognition. If we go by what you say then basically anyone can headline as long as they make quality music. It's a novel though, but it is not how the real world works unfortunately.

Getting to headline is not a charity


Maybe we should go for 3-4 headliners then instead of 8-9. I like the fact that there are many, and some are lifted to that position by the festival regardless of not being "that big", but maybe that´s just me.


Don't agree with that either icon_wink.gif

Getting 8-9 headliners shouldn't be a problem (it didn't used to be). It's about being more open to all types of music and statur (i.e. not having to be the hippest and coolest right now) and just go for stuff that a big portion of the fans like.

D.A.D., Machine Head, Suede or even Kim Larsen for example I believe could have been signed rather cheap and they would attract many people. Just examples of what is possible.

I really miss Leif Skov. He was brilliant at mixing hot with proven.

[This article was edited 1 times, at last 09.04.2012 at 19:16.]
Written on: 09.04.2012 19:38
Wallu
Posts: 712
Robbie Fowler is God wrote:

Wallu wrote:

Robbie Fowler is God wrote:

Coldblooded wrote:

I'm not too skeptical about Jack White as a headliner, after hearing about 'Blunderbuss' which is out real soon. Supposedly it is his greatest work to date, even overshadowing the White Stripes albums. And, as has been pointed out before, he could headline and still play Arena.


Headliners surely is about a big following and the quality of their music where the first comes first. Jack White would probably not draw a big crowd at Orange. I agree he could headline and play Arena (as that has happened before) but it doesn't seem right to me. Basically one is saying that the headliners are not big enough to pull a big crowd. Then what is the point of headliners?




That´s fair, but one has to bear in mind, that there aren´t as many big bands out there as there used to be. I don´t see that last year we missed out on so many great big acts who could´ve been available (only Coldplay comes to mind, and my humble opinion is, that we could have missed them in 09 too.. Sorry. icon_wink.gif). Orange stage has to be filled with something, and it´s getting harder with less bands of that size. We can´t have Metallica and RHCP every year (and in their current form, any year..)

As for Jack White, I compare his playing Orange, to Them Crooked Vultures, that worked out fine. The Roots are too small to play Orange, I get that now, but I sincerely wish the bookers the best finding enough acts to fill Orange if we´ve only got Bruce, Björk, The Cure and Mew by now.


Fair enough mate, but:

Why do you say there are less big artists than before? I don't believe that for a second mate. In fact, in terms of quality music it is easier to get a following than ever before, and new legends (RATM, Soundgarden etc etc) are touring all the time.

Back when RF was really hot and band like RATM where up and coming headliners, while now they would be legends and draw an even bigger crowd. And so the circle goes.

I personally think the problem is more the festival reluctance to look backwards, than the lack of big guns. This year is a bit different with Bruce and The Cure.

They would be wise to sign Suede who used to be synonym with the festival when they where really hot in the 90's. The festival could really milk this and I am sure it would be a rather inexpensive headliner who would draw a big crowd.

I think the festival is overlooking way to many potential headliners because of a certain profile they have desperately tried to achieve lately.


Ok, maybe we just see it differently. I just love the fact that would be also new hot bands getting a chance on Orange. For example I´ve heard "Scream for me Roskilde, Helsinki, whatever..." so many times already, that Mastodon was a breath of fresh air after all the Iron Maiden and Metallica shows I´ve seen (used to be a big fan of both, but nowadays..). Of course there should be crowd pleasers, but there should also be room for future "big guns". And I fear that for the youngsters today it can be "Suede who?". The fact that the place on Orange was earned now and not 15 years ago, makes a difference in some cases (not that every old band is tired, but many are).

(I´m digging my own grave here, but I cant think of any band filling Orange, who have started in the last 10 years.. So we´re stuck with to the oldies, I fear)

[This article was edited 1 times, at last 09.04.2012 at 19:40.]
Written on: 09.04.2012 19:58
The Rehabilitation of Luis Suarez
Posts: 2506
Wallu wrote:

Robbie Fowler is God wrote:

Wallu wrote:

Robbie Fowler is God wrote:

Coldblooded wrote:

I'm not too skeptical about Jack White as a headliner, after hearing about 'Blunderbuss' which is out real soon. Supposedly it is his greatest work to date, even overshadowing the White Stripes albums. And, as has been pointed out before, he could headline and still play Arena.


Headliners surely is about a big following and the quality of their music where the first comes first. Jack White would probably not draw a big crowd at Orange. I agree he could headline and play Arena (as that has happened before) but it doesn't seem right to me. Basically one is saying that the headliners are not big enough to pull a big crowd. Then what is the point of headliners?




That´s fair, but one has to bear in mind, that there aren´t as many big bands out there as there used to be. I don´t see that last year we missed out on so many great big acts who could´ve been available (only Coldplay comes to mind, and my humble opinion is, that we could have missed them in 09 too.. Sorry. icon_wink.gif). Orange stage has to be filled with something, and it´s getting harder with less bands of that size. We can´t have Metallica and RHCP every year (and in their current form, any year..)

As for Jack White, I compare his playing Orange, to Them Crooked Vultures, that worked out fine. The Roots are too small to play Orange, I get that now, but I sincerely wish the bookers the best finding enough acts to fill Orange if we´ve only got Bruce, Björk, The Cure and Mew by now.


Fair enough mate, but:

Why do you say there are less big artists than before? I don't believe that for a second mate. In fact, in terms of quality music it is easier to get a following than ever before, and new legends (RATM, Soundgarden etc etc) are touring all the time.

Back when RF was really hot and band like RATM where up and coming headliners, while now they would be legends and draw an even bigger crowd. And so the circle goes.

I personally think the problem is more the festival reluctance to look backwards, than the lack of big guns. This year is a bit different with Bruce and The Cure.

They would be wise to sign Suede who used to be synonym with the festival when they where really hot in the 90's. The festival could really milk this and I am sure it would be a rather inexpensive headliner who would draw a big crowd.

I think the festival is overlooking way to many potential headliners because of a certain profile they have desperately tried to achieve lately.


Ok, maybe we just see it differently. I just love the fact that would be also new hot bands getting a chance on Orange. For example I´ve heard "Scream for me Roskilde, Helsinki, whatever..." so many times already, that Mastodon was a breath of fresh air after all the Iron Maiden and Metallica shows I´ve seen (used to be a big fan of both, but nowadays..). Of course there should be crowd pleasers, but there should also be room for future "big guns". And I fear that for the youngsters today it can be "Suede who?". The fact that the place on Orange was earned now and not 15 years ago, makes a difference in some cases (not that every old band is tired, but many are).

(I´m digging my own grave here, but I cant think of any band filling Orange, who have started in the last 10 years.. So we´re stuck with to the oldies, I fear)


I think you are right about that, but off the top of my head:

- The Black Keys
- Rihanna (seriously- if they can do MIA...)
- Gnarls Barkley
- Volbeat
- Wolfmother
- Arctic Monkeys
- Strokes
- Gaslight Anthem

there will be a lot that I haven't thought off.

But what I am 100% certain off is that there is a great deal of what would be subliners at RF and who have potential to elevate to headline material. So getting a strong subline list should be easier than before- leaving the festival to pick proven old fart and a few new big guns to fill the headlining spot.

I have to add that I think the music industry somewhat was in limbo early 2000 with internet and all- and bands falling off such as Travis and the like, who weren't able to build on their status.

You have good point though, I find myself reaching.
Written on: 09.04.2012 20:38
Coldblooded
Posts: 1229
While Wallu may be right or wrong in his assumption that there are less "Orange Stage"-worthy bands out there, one cannot argue with another proven fact: The price for the concerts and thus also the artists who are up for grabs in the festival season has taken an upwards leap of dimensions after the plummet in record sales, and it's probably not going to go down, ever. I went to see Smashing Pumpkins at Store Vega five years ago and was so appalled at the ticket price versus the mediocre show they put on that I swore to never go see them again. It hasn't got any better since then.
Written on: 09.04.2012 22:42
Rockmus
Posts: 290
Coldblooded wrote:

While Wallu may be right or wrong in his assumption that there are less "Orange Stage"-worthy bands out there, one cannot argue with another proven fact: The price for the concerts and thus also the artists who are up for grabs in the festival season has taken an upwards leap of dimensions after the plummet in record sales, and it's probably not going to go down, ever. I went to see Smashing Pumpkins at Store Vega five years ago and was so appalled at the ticket price versus the mediocre show they put on that I swore to never go see them again. It hasn't got any better since then.


I'm pretty sure that I read somewhere, that due to the financial crisis lots of bands have lowered their prices

With that said, I hope for Duran Duran - much rather have the big 80s names than any of all that reunited grungy grunge (it all sounds pretty watered down to me) and I really hope they won't book Soundgarden! ...am I the only one who thought audioslave was way better than both soundgarden and RATM?

Does anybody know if it's im-/possible with The Jesus and Mary Chain? that would be sweet!
Written on: 09.04.2012 22:59
The Rehabilitation of Luis Suarez
Posts: 2506
Rockmus wrote:

Coldblooded wrote:

While Wallu may be right or wrong in his assumption that there are less "Orange Stage"-worthy bands out there, one cannot argue with another proven fact: The price for the concerts and thus also the artists who are up for grabs in the festival season has taken an upwards leap of dimensions after the plummet in record sales, and it's probably not going to go down, ever. I went to see Smashing Pumpkins at Store Vega five years ago and was so appalled at the ticket price versus the mediocre show they put on that I swore to never go see them again. It hasn't got any better since then.


I'm pretty sure that I read somewhere, that due to the financial crisis lots of bands have lowered their prices

With that said, I hope for Duran Duran - much rather have the big 80s names than any of all that reunited grungy grunge (it all sounds pretty watered down to me) and I really hope they won't book Soundgarden! ...am I the only one who thought audioslave was way better than both soundgarden and RATM?

Does anybody know if it's im-/possible with The Jesus and Mary Chain? that would be sweet!


If you prefer Audioslave to them I think you are one of the very few on this planet, and I've got to ask if you have listened much to said bands.

Can you please define grunge music to me BTW?

Soundgarden and RATM are certainly not "grunge"; whatever it is

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Written on: 09.04.2012 23:07
Coldblooded
Posts: 1229
Robbie Fowler is God wrote:

Rockmus wrote:

Coldblooded wrote:

While Wallu may be right or wrong in his assumption that there are less "Orange Stage"-worthy bands out there, one cannot argue with another proven fact: The price for the concerts and thus also the artists who are up for grabs in the festival season has taken an upwards leap of dimensions after the plummet in record sales, and it's probably not going to go down, ever. I went to see Smashing Pumpkins at Store Vega five years ago and was so appalled at the ticket price versus the mediocre show they put on that I swore to never go see them again. It hasn't got any better since then.


I'm pretty sure that I read somewhere, that due to the financial crisis lots of bands have lowered their prices

With that said, I hope for Duran Duran - much rather have the big 80s names than any of all that reunited grungy grunge (it all sounds pretty watered down to me) and I really hope they won't book Soundgarden! ...am I the only one who thought audioslave was way better than both soundgarden and RATM?

Does anybody know if it's im-/possible with The Jesus and Mary Chain? that would be sweet!


If you prefer Audioslave to them I think you are one of the very few on this planet, and I've got to ask if you have listened much to said bands.

Can you please define grunge music to me BTW?

Soundgarden and RATM are certainly not "grunge"; whatever it is


Is there not an error in your last statement? Soundgarden is very much a grunge band according to several music encyclopedias, while Audioslave isn't.
Written on: 09.04.2012 23:08
Emil Asbjørn Madsen
Posts: 93
Robbie Fowler is God wrote:

Rockmus wrote:

Coldblooded wrote:

While Wallu may be right or wrong in his assumption that there are less "Orange Stage"-worthy bands out there, one cannot argue with another proven fact: The price for the concerts and thus also the artists who are up for grabs in the festival season has taken an upwards leap of dimensions after the plummet in record sales, and it's probably not going to go down, ever. I went to see Smashing Pumpkins at Store Vega five years ago and was so appalled at the ticket price versus the mediocre show they put on that I swore to never go see them again. It hasn't got any better since then.


I'm pretty sure that I read somewhere, that due to the financial crisis lots of bands have lowered their prices

With that said, I hope for Duran Duran - much rather have the big 80s names than any of all that reunited grungy grunge (it all sounds pretty watered down to me) and I really hope they won't book Soundgarden! ...am I the only one who thought audioslave was way better than both soundgarden and RATM?

Does anybody know if it's im-/possible with The Jesus and Mary Chain? that would be sweet!


If you prefer Audioslave to them I think you are one of the very few on this planet, and I've got to ask if you have listened much to said bands.

Can you please define grunge music to me BTW?

Soundgarden and RATM are certainly not "grunge"; whatever it is


Soundgarden and RATM are as close to the definition of grunge as can be! Along with Alice In Chains, Pearl Jam and especially Nirvana, they were part of the musicwave that started out in Seattle in the late 80's and was a mixture between punk, alternative rock, funk and heavy metal. It consist mostly of angry, longhaired men in Doc Martins, distorted guitars and apathic and angst-filled lyrics. If that does not fit on Soundgarden and RATM, I can't see what does! icon_smile.gif
Written on: 09.04.2012 23:18
The Rehabilitation of Luis Suarez
Posts: 2506
Emil Asbjørn Madsen wrote:

Robbie Fowler is God wrote:

Rockmus wrote:

Coldblooded wrote:

While Wallu may be right or wrong in his assumption that there are less "Orange Stage"-worthy bands out there, one cannot argue with another proven fact: The price for the concerts and thus also the artists who are up for grabs in the festival season has taken an upwards leap of dimensions after the plummet in record sales, and it's probably not going to go down, ever. I went to see Smashing Pumpkins at Store Vega five years ago and was so appalled at the ticket price versus the mediocre show they put on that I swore to never go see them again. It hasn't got any better since then.


I'm pretty sure that I read somewhere, that due to the financial crisis lots of bands have lowered their prices

With that said, I hope for Duran Duran - much rather have the big 80s names than any of all that reunited grungy grunge (it all sounds pretty watered down to me) and I really hope they won't book Soundgarden! ...am I the only one who thought audioslave was way better than both soundgarden and RATM?

Does anybody know if it's im-/possible with The Jesus and Mary Chain? that would be sweet!


If you prefer Audioslave to them I think you are one of the very few on this planet, and I've got to ask if you have listened much to said bands.

Can you please define grunge music to me BTW?

Soundgarden and RATM are certainly not "grunge"; whatever it is


Soundgarden and RATM are as close to the definition of grunge as can be! Along with Alice In Chains, Pearl Jam and especially Nirvana, they were part of the musicwave that started out in Seattle in the late 80's and was a mixture between punk, alternative rock, funk and heavy metal. It consist mostly of angry, longhaired men in Doc Martins, distorted guitars and apathic and angst-filled lyrics. If that does not fit on Soundgarden and RATM, I can't see what does! icon_smile.gif


So Soundgarden, Nirvana, Pearl Jam and RATM belongs in the same musically category? I hope you are not serious. It's like putting Iron Maiden, Foo Fighters, Bruce Springsteen and Metallica in the same subcategory. They are all hard rock bands, but that's about what they have in common musically.

For most fans "grunge" is just a word to describe a music and cultural/fashion scene from Seattle. Some people tries to explain it as heavy and deep sound...

I love all those band, but would never for the life of me categorize as having a similar sound.

And none of the bands have nothing to do with funk, besides RATM who are not recognized as "grunge" by even the worst label fans around.

Lastly: There is nothing boring about or "watered out" about these bands from the seattle scene (read "grunge"

I would like to add Alice In Chains, Green River, Mudhoney, Mother Love Bone (members of Pearl Jam and Soundgarden), Screaming Trees to that list of very fine rock bands with a very different sound. Since there have been a variety of bands trying to make "grunge" music....

I'd love to see the "godfather of grunge" back at RF also.

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[This article was edited 5 times, at last 09.04.2012 at 23:24.]


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