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Written on: 09.04.2012 23:29
Classic rock dude!
Posts: 2488
Coldblooded wrote:

Robbie Fowler is God wrote:

Rockmus wrote:

Coldblooded wrote:

While Wallu may be right or wrong in his assumption that there are less "Orange Stage"-worthy bands out there, one cannot argue with another proven fact: The price for the concerts and thus also the artists who are up for grabs in the festival season has taken an upwards leap of dimensions after the plummet in record sales, and it's probably not going to go down, ever. I went to see Smashing Pumpkins at Store Vega five years ago and was so appalled at the ticket price versus the mediocre show they put on that I swore to never go see them again. It hasn't got any better since then.


I'm pretty sure that I read somewhere, that due to the financial crisis lots of bands have lowered their prices

With that said, I hope for Duran Duran - much rather have the big 80s names than any of all that reunited grungy grunge (it all sounds pretty watered down to me) and I really hope they won't book Soundgarden! ...am I the only one who thought audioslave was way better than both soundgarden and RATM?

Does anybody know if it's im-/possible with The Jesus and Mary Chain? that would be sweet!


If you prefer Audioslave to them I think you are one of the very few on this planet, and I've got to ask if you have listened much to said bands.

Can you please define grunge music to me BTW?

Soundgarden and RATM are certainly not "grunge"; whatever it is


Is there not an error in your last statement? Soundgarden is very much a grunge band according to several music encyclopedias, while Audioslave isn't.


My point is that I don't recognize "grunge" as a musical category. It started out as a musical sound, but after a short while the term got so watered out with a huge variety of different bands that most people now talk about "grunge" as the Seattle scene- a larger definition of bands that had some things in common.

No one can seriously argue that RATM, Nirvana and Soundgarden belongs in the same subcategory. If you do- you've fallen victim to media hype I am sorry to say.

I'll ask both of you again: What is Grunge- musically?
Written on: 09.04.2012 23:34
Emil Asbjørn Madsen
Posts: 93
Robbie Fowler is God wrote:

Emil Asbjørn Madsen wrote:

Robbie Fowler is God wrote:

Rockmus wrote:

Coldblooded wrote:

While Wallu may be right or wrong in his assumption that there are less "Orange Stage"-worthy bands out there, one cannot argue with another proven fact: The price for the concerts and thus also the artists who are up for grabs in the festival season has taken an upwards leap of dimensions after the plummet in record sales, and it's probably not going to go down, ever. I went to see Smashing Pumpkins at Store Vega five years ago and was so appalled at the ticket price versus the mediocre show they put on that I swore to never go see them again. It hasn't got any better since then.


I'm pretty sure that I read somewhere, that due to the financial crisis lots of bands have lowered their prices

With that said, I hope for Duran Duran - much rather have the big 80s names than any of all that reunited grungy grunge (it all sounds pretty watered down to me) and I really hope they won't book Soundgarden! ...am I the only one who thought audioslave was way better than both soundgarden and RATM?

Does anybody know if it's im-/possible with The Jesus and Mary Chain? that would be sweet!


If you prefer Audioslave to them I think you are one of the very few on this planet, and I've got to ask if you have listened much to said bands.

Can you please define grunge music to me BTW?

Soundgarden and RATM are certainly not "grunge"; whatever it is


Soundgarden and RATM are as close to the definition of grunge as can be! Along with Alice In Chains, Pearl Jam and especially Nirvana, they were part of the musicwave that started out in Seattle in the late 80's and was a mixture between punk, alternative rock, funk and heavy metal. It consist mostly of angry, longhaired men in Doc Martins, distorted guitars and apathic and angst-filled lyrics. If that does not fit on Soundgarden and RATM, I can't see what does! icon_smile.gif


So Soundgarden, Nirvana, Pearl Jam and RATM belongs in the same musically category? I hope you are not serious.

For most fans "grunge" is just a word to describe a music and cultural/fashion scene from Seattle. Some people tries to explain it as heavy and deep sound...

I love all those band, but would never for the life of me categorize as having a similar sound.

And none of the bands have nothing to do with funk, besides RATM who are not recognized as "grunge" by even the worst label fans around.

Lastly: There is nothing boring about or "watered out" about these bands from the seattle scene (read "grunge"

I would like to add Alice In Chains, Green River, Mudhoney, Mother Love Bone (members of Pearl Jam and Soundgarden), Screaming Trees to that list of very fine rock bands with a very different sound. Since there have been a variety of bands trying to make "grunge" music....

I'd love to see the "godfather of grunge" back at RF also.

icon_wink.gif


I am most certainly serious - I have written several papers on this.

All of the bands i mentioned, with the exception of RATM, were founded in the Seattle area in the late 80's/ early 90's, and all consist of anger towards the society.

To prove my point and decrease the size of this post, check out this documentary from danish DR2 (sorry its in danish):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQxEZB_8FbI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AomEt1L1gqQ&feature=relmfu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alVue_cVv9Y&feature=relmfu
Written on: 09.04.2012 23:57
Coldblooded
Posts: 1186
Robbie Fowler is God wrote:

Coldblooded wrote:

Robbie Fowler is God wrote:

Rockmus wrote:

Coldblooded wrote:

While Wallu may be right or wrong in his assumption that there are less "Orange Stage"-worthy bands out there, one cannot argue with another proven fact: The price for the concerts and thus also the artists who are up for grabs in the festival season has taken an upwards leap of dimensions after the plummet in record sales, and it's probably not going to go down, ever. I went to see Smashing Pumpkins at Store Vega five years ago and was so appalled at the ticket price versus the mediocre show they put on that I swore to never go see them again. It hasn't got any better since then.


I'm pretty sure that I read somewhere, that due to the financial crisis lots of bands have lowered their prices

With that said, I hope for Duran Duran - much rather have the big 80s names than any of all that reunited grungy grunge (it all sounds pretty watered down to me) and I really hope they won't book Soundgarden! ...am I the only one who thought audioslave was way better than both soundgarden and RATM?

Does anybody know if it's im-/possible with The Jesus and Mary Chain? that would be sweet!


If you prefer Audioslave to them I think you are one of the very few on this planet, and I've got to ask if you have listened much to said bands.

Can you please define grunge music to me BTW?

Soundgarden and RATM are certainly not "grunge"; whatever it is


Is there not an error in your last statement? Soundgarden is very much a grunge band according to several music encyclopedias, while Audioslave isn't.


My point is that I don't recognize "grunge" as a musical category. It started out as a musical sound, but after a short while the term got so watered out with a huge variety of different bands that most people now talk about "grunge" as the Seattle scene- a larger definition of bands that had some things in common.

No one can seriously argue that RATM, Nirvana and Soundgarden belongs in the same subcategory. If you do- you've fallen victim to media hype I am sorry to say.

I'll ask both of you again: What is Grunge- musically?

I didn't see that RATM was included in the pile. I wouldn't label them as grunge either, but rather a rap/funk/metal hybrid. To me, grunge is more or less the 'Seattle sound' or approximations/derivatives thereof.
Written on: 10.04.2012 00:33
Emil Asbjørn Madsen
Posts: 93
Coldblooded wrote:

Robbie Fowler is God wrote:

Coldblooded wrote:

Robbie Fowler is God wrote:

Rockmus wrote:

Coldblooded wrote:

While Wallu may be right or wrong in his assumption that there are less "Orange Stage"-worthy bands out there, one cannot argue with another proven fact: The price for the concerts and thus also the artists who are up for grabs in the festival season has taken an upwards leap of dimensions after the plummet in record sales, and it's probably not going to go down, ever. I went to see Smashing Pumpkins at Store Vega five years ago and was so appalled at the ticket price versus the mediocre show they put on that I swore to never go see them again. It hasn't got any better since then.


I'm pretty sure that I read somewhere, that due to the financial crisis lots of bands have lowered their prices

With that said, I hope for Duran Duran - much rather have the big 80s names than any of all that reunited grungy grunge (it all sounds pretty watered down to me) and I really hope they won't book Soundgarden! ...am I the only one who thought audioslave was way better than both soundgarden and RATM?

Does anybody know if it's im-/possible with The Jesus and Mary Chain? that would be sweet!


If you prefer Audioslave to them I think you are one of the very few on this planet, and I've got to ask if you have listened much to said bands.

Can you please define grunge music to me BTW?

Soundgarden and RATM are certainly not "grunge"; whatever it is


Is there not an error in your last statement? Soundgarden is very much a grunge band according to several music encyclopedias, while Audioslave isn't.


My point is that I don't recognize "grunge" as a musical category. It started out as a musical sound, but after a short while the term got so watered out with a huge variety of different bands that most people now talk about "grunge" as the Seattle scene- a larger definition of bands that had some things in common.

No one can seriously argue that RATM, Nirvana and Soundgarden belongs in the same subcategory. If you do- you've fallen victim to media hype I am sorry to say.

I'll ask both of you again: What is Grunge- musically?

I didn't see that RATM was included in the pile. I wouldn't label them as grunge either, but rather a rap/funk/metal hybrid. To me, grunge is more or less the 'Seattle sound' or approximations/derivatives thereof.


I still think RATM has so much in common with the Seattle-bands, that you could argue them for being grunge. It has the riffbased distortion-guitar, the anger, the instrumentation, and it figured in the same period as the other grunge-bands. Only way they differ, imo, is the rapping instead of singing - and the rapping still features some of the "chanting" that is seen in many grungesongs.
Written on: 10.04.2012 06:29
Wallu
Posts: 634
Coldblooded wrote:

While Wallu may be right or wrong in his assumption that there are less "Orange Stage"-worthy bands out there, one cannot argue with another proven fact: The price for the concerts and thus also the artists who are up for grabs in the festival season has taken an upwards leap of dimensions after the plummet in record sales, and it's probably not going to go down, ever. I went to see Smashing Pumpkins at Store Vega five years ago and was so appalled at the ticket price versus the mediocre show they put on that I swore to never go see them again. It hasn't got any better since then.


The rising of the prices is definatly a factor, and another one is that there are much more festivals to compete against.
Written on: 10.04.2012 08:36
Rockmus
Posts: 290
Robbie Fowler is God wrote:

Coldblooded wrote:

Robbie Fowler is God wrote:

Rockmus wrote:

Coldblooded wrote:

While Wallu may be right or wrong in his assumption that there are less "Orange Stage"-worthy bands out there, one cannot argue with another proven fact: The price for the concerts and thus also the artists who are up for grabs in the festival season has taken an upwards leap of dimensions after the plummet in record sales, and it's probably not going to go down, ever. I went to see Smashing Pumpkins at Store Vega five years ago and was so appalled at the ticket price versus the mediocre show they put on that I swore to never go see them again. It hasn't got any better since then.


I'm pretty sure that I read somewhere, that due to the financial crisis lots of bands have lowered their prices

With that said, I hope for Duran Duran - much rather have the big 80s names than any of all that reunited grungy grunge (it all sounds pretty watered down to me) and I really hope they won't book Soundgarden! ...am I the only one who thought audioslave was way better than both soundgarden and RATM?

Does anybody know if it's im-/possible with The Jesus and Mary Chain? that would be sweet!


If you prefer Audioslave to them I think you are one of the very few on this planet, and I've got to ask if you have listened much to said bands.

Can you please define grunge music to me BTW?

Soundgarden and RATM are certainly not "grunge"; whatever it is


Is there not an error in your last statement? Soundgarden is very much a grunge band according to several music encyclopedias, while Audioslave isn't.


My point is that I don't recognize "grunge" as a musical category. It started out as a musical sound, but after a short while the term got so watered out with a huge variety of different bands that most people now talk about "grunge" as the Seattle scene- a larger definition of bands that had some things in common.

No one can seriously argue that RATM, Nirvana and Soundgarden belongs in the same subcategory. If you do- you've fallen victim to media hype I am sorry to say.

I'll ask both of you again: What is Grunge- musically?


Sorry to have been away from the discussion icon_redface.gif well to me grunge is pretty much old school heavy metal (a la Black Sabbath) with a bit more mud on the distortion (which gives it the name) and then with a punk aesthetic... I just think it was a recipe that pretty fast got watered down, and I think that sound of the very very fuzzy guitar, has been so used in 90s alternative rock. I would love to see bands like Dinosaur Jr and Sonic Youth (if they will ever tour again?) but I do find the grungy part of the 90s music pretty boring today... I guess my answer was a bit provoking though - sorry icon_wink.gif

still I would love to see The Jesus And Mary Chain - and I think they would headline
Written on: 10.04.2012 12:22
Christian Forslund
Posts: 334
Wallu wrote:

Coldblooded wrote:

While Wallu may be right or wrong in his assumption that there are less "Orange Stage"-worthy bands out there, one cannot argue with another proven fact: The price for the concerts and thus also the artists who are up for grabs in the festival season has taken an upwards leap of dimensions after the plummet in record sales, and it's probably not going to go down, ever. I went to see Smashing Pumpkins at Store Vega five years ago and was so appalled at the ticket price versus the mediocre show they put on that I swore to never go see them again. It hasn't got any better since then.


The rising of the prices is definatly a factor, and another one is that there are much more festivals to compete against.

To me it also seems that there are more festivals to compete against in Denmark (or maybe I didn't notice them before), none of them can compete with the size of Roskilde, but each has a few bands, who would be headliners or strong subliners at Roskilde (Blur, Kasabian, Garbage, Ministry, Offspring, Linkin Park, Robyn, Justice, Black Sabbath, Marilyn Manson, Slayer, Anthrax, Lambs of Gods) but are excluded from Roskilde, because of them playing at other danish festivals.
It seems that some of these bands would be playing at Rosilde otherwise.
Written on: 11.04.2012 08:53
Texas Rob
Posts: 6
Maybe its just me, but the trend towards throwback headliners for all music festivals is getting kinda old... One to Two (you know, like Springsteen and Bjork) is great but that's about all that a festival needs. Headliners should get people excited and put asses in the seats, and you get that with bands that are hot right now... that have momentum. Eminem, Shinedown, 5 Finger Death Punch... all would be awesome choices for Orange Stage that are relevant today. I guess the throwbacks are chosen because of they are accomplished and have name recognition, but that doesn't necessarily equate to an exciting festival. Case in point... I am from Texas and look forward to Austin City Limits every year, and last year Stevie Wonder was one of the big headliners. Really? I mean, everyone respects his talent and accomplished musical career, but am I going to rush out and secure tickets to rage at the Stevie Wonder show??
Written on: 11.04.2012 08:57
Classic rock dude!
Posts: 2488
Emil Asbjørn Madsen wrote:

Robbie Fowler is God wrote:

Emil Asbjørn Madsen wrote:

Robbie Fowler is God wrote:

Rockmus wrote:

Coldblooded wrote:

While Wallu may be right or wrong in his assumption that there are less "Orange Stage"-worthy bands out there, one cannot argue with another proven fact: The price for the concerts and thus also the artists who are up for grabs in the festival season has taken an upwards leap of dimensions after the plummet in record sales, and it's probably not going to go down, ever. I went to see Smashing Pumpkins at Store Vega five years ago and was so appalled at the ticket price versus the mediocre show they put on that I swore to never go see them again. It hasn't got any better since then.


I'm pretty sure that I read somewhere, that due to the financial crisis lots of bands have lowered their prices

With that said, I hope for Duran Duran - much rather have the big 80s names than any of all that reunited grungy grunge (it all sounds pretty watered down to me) and I really hope they won't book Soundgarden! ...am I the only one who thought audioslave was way better than both soundgarden and RATM?

Does anybody know if it's im-/possible with The Jesus and Mary Chain? that would be sweet!


If you prefer Audioslave to them I think you are one of the very few on this planet, and I've got to ask if you have listened much to said bands.

Can you please define grunge music to me BTW?

Soundgarden and RATM are certainly not "grunge"; whatever it is


Soundgarden and RATM are as close to the definition of grunge as can be! Along with Alice In Chains, Pearl Jam and especially Nirvana, they were part of the musicwave that started out in Seattle in the late 80's and was a mixture between punk, alternative rock, funk and heavy metal. It consist mostly of angry, longhaired men in Doc Martins, distorted guitars and apathic and angst-filled lyrics. If that does not fit on Soundgarden and RATM, I can't see what does! icon_smile.gif


So Soundgarden, Nirvana, Pearl Jam and RATM belongs in the same musically category? I hope you are not serious.

For most fans "grunge" is just a word to describe a music and cultural/fashion scene from Seattle. Some people tries to explain it as heavy and deep sound...

I love all those band, but would never for the life of me categorize as having a similar sound.

And none of the bands have nothing to do with funk, besides RATM who are not recognized as "grunge" by even the worst label fans around.

Lastly: There is nothing boring about or "watered out" about these bands from the seattle scene (read "grunge"

I would like to add Alice In Chains, Green River, Mudhoney, Mother Love Bone (members of Pearl Jam and Soundgarden), Screaming Trees to that list of very fine rock bands with a very different sound. Since there have been a variety of bands trying to make "grunge" music....

I'd love to see the "godfather of grunge" back at RF also.

icon_wink.gif


I am most certainly serious - I have written several papers on this.

All of the bands i mentioned, with the exception of RATM, were founded in the Seattle area in the late 80's/ early 90's, and all consist of anger towards the society.

To prove my point and decrease the size of this post, check out this documentary from danish DR2 (sorry its in danish):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQxEZB_8FbI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AomEt1L1gqQ&feature=relmfu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alVue_cVv9Y&feature=relmfu


Using a Danish tv program swarming with errors about "grunge" as a musical genre will not give your argument any credit in my book. Nor the fact that you have written several papers about this; because if you still say that Nirvana, Soundgarden and Pearl Jam is the same musical genre your papers must have been way of the mark.

Would you put Black Sabbath, Led Zeppelin, Neil Young and Jimi Hendrix in the same genre?

They got the "grunge" lifestyle somewhat correct though, but all they are talking about is Pearl Jam and Nirvana- which, if you insist on talking about grunge as a musical genre, does not belong in it. The fact that these bands was included in the label- led to it going from a genre to more a descriptive word of the whole Seattle scene in itself.
Written on: 11.04.2012 09:09
Classic rock dude!
Posts: 2488
Emil Asbjørn Madsen wrote:

Coldblooded wrote:

Robbie Fowler is God wrote:

Coldblooded wrote:

Robbie Fowler is God wrote:

Rockmus wrote:

Coldblooded wrote:

While Wallu may be right or wrong in his assumption that there are less "Orange Stage"-worthy bands out there, one cannot argue with another proven fact: The price for the concerts and thus also the artists who are up for grabs in the festival season has taken an upwards leap of dimensions after the plummet in record sales, and it's probably not going to go down, ever. I went to see Smashing Pumpkins at Store Vega five years ago and was so appalled at the ticket price versus the mediocre show they put on that I swore to never go see them again. It hasn't got any better since then.


I'm pretty sure that I read somewhere, that due to the financial crisis lots of bands have lowered their prices

With that said, I hope for Duran Duran - much rather have the big 80s names than any of all that reunited grungy grunge (it all sounds pretty watered down to me) and I really hope they won't book Soundgarden! ...am I the only one who thought audioslave was way better than both soundgarden and RATM?

Does anybody know if it's im-/possible with The Jesus and Mary Chain? that would be sweet!


If you prefer Audioslave to them I think you are one of the very few on this planet, and I've got to ask if you have listened much to said bands.

Can you please define grunge music to me BTW?

Soundgarden and RATM are certainly not "grunge"; whatever it is


Is there not an error in your last statement? Soundgarden is very much a grunge band according to several music encyclopedias, while Audioslave isn't.


My point is that I don't recognize "grunge" as a musical category. It started out as a musical sound, but after a short while the term got so watered out with a huge variety of different bands that most people now talk about "grunge" as the Seattle scene- a larger definition of bands that had some things in common.

No one can seriously argue that RATM, Nirvana and Soundgarden belongs in the same subcategory. If you do- you've fallen victim to media hype I am sorry to say.

I'll ask both of you again: What is Grunge- musically?

I didn't see that RATM was included in the pile. I wouldn't label them as grunge either, but rather a rap/funk/metal hybrid. To me, grunge is more or less the 'Seattle sound' or approximations/derivatives thereof.


I still think RATM has so much in common with the Seattle-bands, that you could argue them for being grunge. It has the 1riffbased distortion-guitar, the anger, 2the instrumentation, and it 3figured in the same period as the other grunge-bands. Only way they differ, imo, is the rapping instead of singing - and the rapping still features some of the 4"chanting" that is seen in many grungesongs.


1: like 100% of all hard rock bands in the world...
2: The grunge bands where not known for their instrumentation
3: Only if they started in the mid 80's. Which they didn't. RATM came after the big "grunge (sic)" thingy.
4: please name a few of these songs
Written on: 11.04.2012 09:11
Classic rock dude!
Posts: 2488
Coldblooded wrote:

Robbie Fowler is God wrote:

Coldblooded wrote:

Robbie Fowler is God wrote:

Rockmus wrote:

Coldblooded wrote:

While Wallu may be right or wrong in his assumption that there are less "Orange Stage"-worthy bands out there, one cannot argue with another proven fact: The price for the concerts and thus also the artists who are up for grabs in the festival season has taken an upwards leap of dimensions after the plummet in record sales, and it's probably not going to go down, ever. I went to see Smashing Pumpkins at Store Vega five years ago and was so appalled at the ticket price versus the mediocre show they put on that I swore to never go see them again. It hasn't got any better since then.


I'm pretty sure that I read somewhere, that due to the financial crisis lots of bands have lowered their prices

With that said, I hope for Duran Duran - much rather have the big 80s names than any of all that reunited grungy grunge (it all sounds pretty watered down to me) and I really hope they won't book Soundgarden! ...am I the only one who thought audioslave was way better than both soundgarden and RATM?

Does anybody know if it's im-/possible with The Jesus and Mary Chain? that would be sweet!


If you prefer Audioslave to them I think you are one of the very few on this planet, and I've got to ask if you have listened much to said bands.

Can you please define grunge music to me BTW?

Soundgarden and RATM are certainly not "grunge"; whatever it is


Is there not an error in your last statement? Soundgarden is very much a grunge band according to several music encyclopedias, while Audioslave isn't.


My point is that I don't recognize "grunge" as a musical category. It started out as a musical sound, but after a short while the term got so watered out with a huge variety of different bands that most people now talk about "grunge" as the Seattle scene- a larger definition of bands that had some things in common.

No one can seriously argue that RATM, Nirvana and Soundgarden belongs in the same subcategory. If you do- you've fallen victim to media hype I am sorry to say.

I'll ask both of you again: What is Grunge- musically?

I didn't see that RATM was included in the pile. I wouldn't label them as grunge either, but rather a rap/funk/metal hybrid. To me, grunge is more or less the 'Seattle sound' or approximations/derivatives thereof.


Sorry mate, but that doesn't answer the question icon_wink.gif
Written on: 11.04.2012 09:17
Classic rock dude!
Posts: 2488
Rockmus wrote:

Robbie Fowler is God wrote:

Coldblooded wrote:

Robbie Fowler is God wrote:

Rockmus wrote:

Coldblooded wrote:

While Wallu may be right or wrong in his assumption that there are less "Orange Stage"-worthy bands out there, one cannot argue with another proven fact: The price for the concerts and thus also the artists who are up for grabs in the festival season has taken an upwards leap of dimensions after the plummet in record sales, and it's probably not going to go down, ever. I went to see Smashing Pumpkins at Store Vega five years ago and was so appalled at the ticket price versus the mediocre show they put on that I swore to never go see them again. It hasn't got any better since then.


I'm pretty sure that I read somewhere, that due to the financial crisis lots of bands have lowered their prices

With that said, I hope for Duran Duran - much rather have the big 80s names than any of all that reunited grungy grunge (it all sounds pretty watered down to me) and I really hope they won't book Soundgarden! ...am I the only one who thought audioslave was way better than both soundgarden and RATM?

Does anybody know if it's im-/possible with The Jesus and Mary Chain? that would be sweet!


If you prefer Audioslave to them I think you are one of the very few on this planet, and I've got to ask if you have listened much to said bands.

Can you please define grunge music to me BTW?

Soundgarden and RATM are certainly not "grunge"; whatever it is


Is there not an error in your last statement? Soundgarden is very much a grunge band according to several music encyclopedias, while Audioslave isn't.


My point is that I don't recognize "grunge" as a musical category. It started out as a musical sound, but after a short while the term got so watered out with a huge variety of different bands that most people now talk about "grunge" as the Seattle scene- a larger definition of bands that had some things in common.

No one can seriously argue that RATM, Nirvana and Soundgarden belongs in the same subcategory. If you do- you've fallen victim to media hype I am sorry to say.

I'll ask both of you again: What is Grunge- musically?


Sorry to have been away from the discussion icon_redface.gif well to me grunge is pretty much old school heavy metal (a la Black Sabbath) with a bit more mud on the distortion (which gives it the name) and then with a punk aesthetic... I just think it was a recipe that pretty fast got watered down, and I think that sound of the very very fuzzy guitar, has been so used in 90s alternative rock. I would love to see bands like Dinosaur Jr and Sonic Youth (if they will ever tour again?) but I do find the grungy part of the 90s music pretty boring today... I guess my answer was a bit provoking though - sorry icon_wink.gif

still I would love to see The Jesus And Mary Chain - and I think they would headline


Best post on this topic, and I agree, the copycats like the bands from the Danish TV program and US bands trying to capitalize on the hype in the 90's was really boring.

None of the "grunge" bands that started in the 90's had any appeal to me. The original bands from the Seattle scene on the other hand. And many of them are still going strong.

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Written on: 11.04.2012 09:49
skallgrimsson
Posts: 1120
It all sounds good guys!

At least there will be more good bands. I'm actually already satisfied and have bought my ticket. But more is more! (fuck less is more icon_biggrin.gif )

19th will be a good day!



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Written on: 11.04.2012 09:57
Coldblooded
Posts: 1186
Manu Chao could be a headliner. He is touring during Roskilde, and it's been ten years since he was here last. A good shot at the world music headliner that's so hard to come by.
Written on: 11.04.2012 10:20
Ziggy Stardust
Posts: 32
I think the Shins could be a possibility to subline, and still get my hopes on Placebo. Eventhough I think if Jack White comes, he would be the headliner and Placebo will be out of the question. Not complaining, love Jack White's music.
Written on: 11.04.2012 10:49
Classic rock dude!
Posts: 2488
Coldblooded wrote:

Manu Chao could be a headliner. He is touring during Roskilde, and it's been ten years since he was here last. A good shot at the world music headliner that's so hard to come by.


excellent shout
Written on: 11.04.2012 23:15
Sölvi Þór
Posts: 52
They MUST bring some young headliners !
Bruce, Björk, The Cure, all what most would consider ooold muscicians. Even if The Roots or Mew would headline, they started a loong time ago.

That doesn't have anything to do with the quality, just the diversity of the music.

If they bring another ''old'' headliner, I'll just have to ask myself WTF is the target age group of Roskilde ?
Written on: 12.04.2012 00:00
Rhayader
Posts: 12
Sölvi Þór wrote:

They MUST bring some young headliners !
Bruce, Björk, The Cure, all what most would consider ooold muscicians. Even if The Roots or Mew would headline, they started a loong time ago.

That doesn't have anything to do with the quality, just the diversity of the music.

If they bring another ''old'' headliner, I'll just have to ask myself WTF is the target age group of Roskilde ?


Couldn't agree with you more. At the moment the only big contemporary artist in the programme that I'm waiting to see is Bon Iver. All the other big names of the genres that I listen to are at least 15 years old (Bruce, Björk, The Cure, Refused and Mew).

Roskilde has always had a great balance between the up and coming bands, as well as the older well established ones. Now what the festival is most missing are the at least semi-popular bands of the last decade or so. The future big headliners.

Still I'm keeping my hopes up for the 19th.

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Written on: 12.04.2012 10:59
Kenneth
Posts: 7
RATM is nu Metal..

The only thing they have in common with Soundgarden is that Chris Cornell and most of RATM made another band called Audioslave..

Written on: 12.04.2012 14:55
Classic rock dude!
Posts: 2488
Kenneth wrote:

RATM is nu Metal..

The only thing they have in common with Soundgarden is that Chris Cornell and most of RATM made another band called Audioslave..


Another label I truly despise. First time I've heard RATM mentioned in that category, but I see the point.

I'd take RATM and Deftones this year icon_wink.gif
Written on: 13.04.2012 11:08
Kenneth
Posts: 7
Robbie Fowler is God wrote:

Kenneth wrote:

RATM is nu Metal..

The only thing they have in common with Soundgarden is that Chris Cornell and most of RATM made another band called Audioslave..


Another label I truly despise. First time I've heard RATM mentioned in that category, but I see the point.

I'd take RATM and Deftones this year icon_wink.gif


Yea, but I watched a documentary about nu-metal, where people from RATM and KoRn talked about it, and RATM said that they were some of the first that played that genre. Some actually say that they created the genre "Nu-metal".

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Written on: 13.04.2012 11:20
Classic rock dude!
Posts: 2488
Kenneth wrote:

Robbie Fowler is God wrote:

Kenneth wrote:

RATM is nu Metal..

The only thing they have in common with Soundgarden is that Chris Cornell and most of RATM made another band called Audioslave..


Another label I truly despise. First time I've heard RATM mentioned in that category, but I see the point.

I'd take RATM and Deftones this year icon_wink.gif


Yea, but I watched a documentary about nu-metal, where people from RATM and KoRn talked about it, and RATM said that they were some of the first that played that genre. Some actually say that they created the genre "Nu-metal".


Hear what you are saying mate! It's just that people so badly needs to label music that they are more than willing to brush whatever has the remotest of similarities in under one label. I'd say that Deftones and RATM definitely are on a completely different level compared to Korn, Papa Roach etc.
Written on: 13.04.2012 11:30
Kenneth
Posts: 7
Robbie Fowler is God wrote:

Kenneth wrote:

Robbie Fowler is God wrote:

Kenneth wrote:

RATM is nu Metal..

The only thing they have in common with Soundgarden is that Chris Cornell and most of RATM made another band called Audioslave..


Another label I truly despise. First time I've heard RATM mentioned in that category, but I see the point.

I'd take RATM and Deftones this year icon_wink.gif


Yea, but I watched a documentary about nu-metal, where people from RATM and KoRn talked about it, and RATM said that they were some of the first that played that genre. Some actually say that they created the genre "Nu-metal".


Hear what you are saying mate! It's just that people so badly needs to label music that they are more than willing to brush whatever has the remotest of similarities in under one label. I'd say that Deftones and RATM definitely are on a completely different level compared to Korn, Papa Roach etc.


And I completely agree with you! icon_wink.gif

Let's hope for RATM and Deftones... and Tool!

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Written on: 13.04.2012 11:45
Classic rock dude!
Posts: 2488
Kenneth wrote:

Robbie Fowler is God wrote:

Kenneth wrote:

Robbie Fowler is God wrote:

Kenneth wrote:

RATM is nu Metal..

The only thing they have in common with Soundgarden is that Chris Cornell and most of RATM made another band called Audioslave..


Another label I truly despise. First time I've heard RATM mentioned in that category, but I see the point.

I'd take RATM and Deftones this year icon_wink.gif


Yea, but I watched a documentary about nu-metal, where people from RATM and KoRn talked about it, and RATM said that they were some of the first that played that genre. Some actually say that they created the genre "Nu-metal".


Hear what you are saying mate! It's just that people so badly needs to label music that they are more than willing to brush whatever has the remotest of similarities in under one label. I'd say that Deftones and RATM definitely are on a completely different level compared to Korn, Papa Roach etc.


And I completely agree with you! icon_wink.gif

Let's hope for RATM and Deftones... and Tool!


Those three would basically make my festival alone icon_wink.gif
Written on: 13.04.2012 13:29
Rockmus
Posts: 290
Kenneth wrote:

RATM is nu Metal..

The only thing they have in common with Soundgarden is that Chris Cornell and most of RATM made another band called Audioslave..




And what a fine band that was icon_biggrin.gif


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