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Written on: 20.05.2011 19:03
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The Juice
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I've been coming to Roskilde every year since 2006. During that five year period of time I've witnessed what I'm sure many of you other guys have notice; a massive increase in the number and the size of homemade audio systems powered by car or truck batteries. I remember visiting Promilleservice for the first time in 2007 and coming back the year later to see that they had pretty much doubled the size of their equipment. The same happened in 2009 and later again in 2010. Both Van Damme Camp and Orange Camp have undergone similar transitions, albeit not as significant.
This is a symptom of what could potentially be a large-scale problem in the camping area: crazy party lovers who want to contribute to the madness of Roskilde by making larger and more elaborate camps and parties. The reason why I think of this as a potential problem and not just something fantastic is pretty simple. There is only so much camping space and the more the size and number of these massive homemade audio systems continues to grow the more fierce will be the competition to outdo them yourself. Which for some camps implies that you will tend toward expansion (a sin my own camp is very much guilty of) og simply be crowded out, meaning that the smaller camps have a significantly harder time hearing their own music, thus destroying much of the bonding experience of life on the camping grounds.
The Coffin Camp are a very illustrative example of what I'm talking about. Notice the size difference between the 2007 and the 2011 editions of their famous Coffin Blaster. And think about what the next editions looks like. Because eventually they will build it bigger. People with this kind of passion for audio and Roskilde never get completely sattisfied with what they've got, because the process itself is a large part of their motivation.
The only meaningful sanction Roskilde Festival has against this inflation is setting a maximum limitation on noize levels. Which they have done but can hardly reinforce. They can hardly make a regulation demanding only so many homemade audio systems per 100 m2 because people would just not obey any such regulation and either way it would force Roskilde to make very unjust discriminations against their campers. Another possible solution could be to designate the really large camps to certain areas of the camping grounds but this has been going on the last couple of years and has hardly slowed down the inflation.
Perhaps I'm the only one who sees this turning into a real problem. But I can't help but think what living in the more popular camping areas is going to be like in only a couple of years if this evolution continues.
EDIT: apparently, I can't figure out how to post links.
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Written on: 20.05.2011 19:26
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Saturnus
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I doubt the CoffinBlaster will ever get bigger than now. It might get better, more trciked out, etcetera but I seriously doubt it'll be bigger. Simple because one of their design requirements is that it can be dragged by two people and lifted including batteries by 4 people.
But you're right, sound systems continue to grow and get louder which to me is a shame, as one of my design requirement for the Boominator was that it not only had to be loud but also sound good doing so and consume almost no power. The Boominator for example don't need a big battery, only a small motorcycle battery and a small solar panel, and then it can basically run all Summer long.
I can only encourage Roskilde Festival to consider the possibility of completely banning all lead batteries, from an enviromentalist PoW that makes complete sense. When people have to invest in Li-ion or better still LFP cells that will naturally put a limit on power consumption as these cost many many times more per Ah. And a limit to power consumption leads to more creative designing than just throwing massive battery stack in front incredibly bad car amps and have them play on 2nd rate car speakers.
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Written on: 20.05.2011 20:07
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The Juice
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Banning lead batteries is definately a possibility. And one I hadn't considered. But such a policy does beg the question of what will become of, say, Promilleservice.
The new tax on battery recharging is also a step towards a solution. However, it could also just force people to bring more batteries from, thus potentially increasing the polution.
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Written on: 20.05.2011 21:02
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Saturnus
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Banning lead batteries will not kill the big camp stereos but it will force them to consider battery consumption much more today as they'll be limited to the roughly 3x as expensive per Ah but completely safe in every way LFP cells instead. It will also force them to use solar panels. Most already do though, and wind power as well. There are portable mini windmill and although they're quite costly, you could build you own for only a fraction, and they do produce quite a lot of power.
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Written on: 20.05.2011 23:19
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Christian
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I'm also concerned about the development of these giant sound systems. I mean, I'm glad that people are being creative and creating parties for everyone to join, but some of the social aspect of Roskilde is disappearing after these sound systems suddenly became the center of the party instead of the people having fun together.
Don't get me wrong, I think that the sound systems are fine, but I do think that they are being used in a way that doesn't comply with the Roskilde spirit I've met over the last 11 years at the festival.
Maybe it's just a reflection of the society that we're living in but I still think that it's a bit sad to see that a lot of the partying actually requires loud music now and not just some crappy boombox so you can talk with each other while listening to the music. It's like the loud music have taken the place of conversation and a lot of the conversations are now about which track people want to hear next and "oh-by-the-way-I-know-this-awesome-youtube-video-with-a-rare-hendrix-recording-if-I-can-just-plug-in-my-iPhone-blah-blah-blah"...
When you act as a DJ with the iPhone or whatever, then you become the center of the party...when the music is the key to the fun then you are basically entertaining everyone when you control the sound system. As a guitarist I totally understand the awesomeness of being the guy that creates the party, but I don't think it would be fair for me to dominate the party that way for hours and hours, also affecting the camps close by. I don't see much of that consideration from the guys with the big sound systems.
Also, some people are using their sound systems as a weapon to isolate themselves in a fake reality where they are alone in their own little universe. I go to Roskilde each year to leave the normal world behind and join a "parallel universe" where everything is as it should be in the real world...people talk to strangers and help each other out with expecting anything in return...people are generally treating each other very nicely during this week and that's a big part of my festival experience.
I think that there's a lot of people that are missing out here, hiding behind loud music, and while it may only hurt themselves right now, I feel that it is a growing trend that may at some point eliminate the more social aspects of the warm-up because everyone wants a sound system that can play louder than the neighbors... 
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Written on: 21.05.2011 13:05
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Kaneda
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Saturnus' idea is perfect and ingenious - and the festival should listen. It could diminish the problem without being "fascist". Although I'm sure certain camps would disagree on that. Still, I'd think quite a few of them would take it as a nice challenge in the end. The sound in certain areas of the campsite already reminds me of Jomfru Ane Gade in Aalborg. And no, that's not a good thing. 
And Christian, that's one hell of a brave post, which I'd have done quite similarly, if it weren't for the fact that I can't be bothered with flame wars. 
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Written on: 21.05.2011 16:27
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Christian
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And Christian, that's one hell of a brave post, which I'd have done quite similarly, if it weren't for the fact that I can't be bothered with flame wars.
They can just bring it...I'll pull rank with my 11 consecutive years on the festival, so I've earned the right to be conversative and to act like I have all the answers. 
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Written on: 21.05.2011 16:33
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Saturnus
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And Christian, that's one hell of a brave post, which I'd have done quite similarly, if it weren't for the fact that I can't be bothered with flame wars.
They can just bring it...I'll pull rank with my 11 consecutive years on the festival, so I've earned the right to be conversative and to act like I have all the answers.
Ditto just more consecutive years of attendance, and I'll just pull post count rank too.
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Written on: 22.05.2011 14:31
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Dunkesen
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I hear you the Juice! I'm really annoyed with the soundsystems and I don't really get why everyone feel the need to bring one. Of course I like the DIY-aspect of the warm-up and the fact that the guests create the party is of course a major part of the Roskilde-ethos, but I have more beautiful memories dancing around a crappy transistor radio/cd-player than from Promilleservice or the likes.
Some restrictstions would be welcome!
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Written on: 22.05.2011 14:53
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Stygge_ulf
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I have been coming to Roskilde regularly since 1998 and I too must say that the giant sound systems are a growing concern for me and many of my friends, when we talk about Roskilde festival. There seems to be coming more of them each year and they seem to be growing louder and louder. We lived next to a camp with a huge one last year, and no one in a radius of about 50 meter could have any conversations or listen to their own music. They got ALOT of complaints from surrounding camps, but hey seemed unwilling to undergo any compromises and went on playing very loud music until 6 in the morning even though mostly they only sat 4 or 5 people in their camp. In the end someone in a rage stole their sound system...
Now, I think that Roskilde should be a festival where everybody can have a good time, party, listen to good music, talk and meet new people. There should be room for almost any kind of mugging about and going crazy for a bit, as long as no one gets hurt and such.
In this case however, I think the whole debate about if Roskilde would act fascist by regulating these sound systems is focusing on the rights of the wrong people. I mean is it ok just to dictate what other people should put up with because someone think that the coolest thing in the world is loud music from a homemade sound system? In the name of freedom to party? Well then what about people who like to party with guitar play and singing, listen to their own little ghetto blaster or people who just want to sit in their camp and chat away who just can’t because someone wants to hear extreme loud techno on their homemade sound system in the camp next to them…
Since I don’t believe that the homemade sound systems should be banned completely (like they are in some festivals around Europe) I think it would be better for the large majority if just one particular area was made in to a sound system area instead.
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Written on: 22.05.2011 22:45
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Friedrich Delgado
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I really like Saturnus' idea of banning lead-based batteries. It's a way of raising the clue-barrier. This is almost like an effective "no idiots" rule. However I'm a little concerned about the ideas of Methylene-based power supplies that have been floating around a while ago, which smells more of the Darwin awards
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Written on: 23.05.2011 12:38
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Jacob
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It would be very welcome if RF could let us all know if Promilleservice/VanDammeCamp etc. will be located at the same strip as last year. And if not then where?
I think that a lot of people would like to avoid unintentionally camping next them.
They are nice guys. We used to camp right next them at east near gate 10 when that was still a possibility. But during the years the sound/noise level became louder and louder and in the end it was not possible for camps nearby to listen to the music of their own choise or have a conversation.
(And if anybody wonders why we decided to camp next to them - well we've been at approximately the same spot since 1997, so it was more them sneaking up on us then the other way around).
So please let all of us know where they will be at this year.
Don't mind the party they create but I would like to have the possibility of not having to be part of it at all times.
And good idea regarding the ban on lead batteries.
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Written on: 23.05.2011 13:11
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The Juice
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I have been coming to Roskilde regularly since 1998 and I too must say that the giant sound systems are a growing concern for me and many of my friends, when we talk about Roskilde festival. There seems to be coming more of them each year and they seem to be growing louder and louder. We lived next to a camp with a huge one last year, and no one in a radius of about 50 meter could have any conversations or listen to their own music. They got ALOT of complaints from surrounding camps, but hey seemed unwilling to undergo any compromises and went on playing very loud music until 6 in the morning even though mostly they only sat 4 or 5 people in their camp. In the end someone in a rage stole their sound system...
I have very deep concerns ending up in a similar position. Having a camp like that as your next-door neighbor can potentially completely destroy the first five days of the festival. I remember experiencing something similar in a hotel in Bulgaria waaay back, where these four dudes would just sit in their room across the hall from where we lived and blast the same CD from their boomblaster. It started around 10, continued until around midnight where there was a brief pause for maybe two hours, before they came back from going out and started blasting again. This was Bulgaria, and needless to say, the staff didn't care much.
I really hope Roskilde are in some kind of a dialogue with the major camps and are willing to inform the rest of us where they are locating them, as Jacob urges them to. I love having them around but wanna make sure I'm not sleeping anywhere near them.
Oh yeah, and it would be awesome if any of the official festival representee's on the board would partake in this debate. I'm pretty sure that it'll be a lot harder to put sanctions and regulations on the sound systems the more established they get.
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Written on: 24.05.2011 01:11
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Ace > The Coffin Camp
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Dear ''The Juice''
First of all, thank you!
I think it's really cool for you to speak up like this, and I agree with you on almost every part of your post.
I do agree with you when you say there are too many soundsystems on the camping ground, and I'm also worried about how this will look in a few years.
I don't really know where to start, because it does feel like I'm trying to defend or excuse myself.
To our camp, and me especially, it's right like you say it, the build and process itself is the real drive. Of course we do love to imagine the crowd following us around, and being the center of attention when acting as a hobby-DJ 
But when it comes down to it, it's almost a small feeling of Post Roskilde Depression when a build weekend is over, and especially when the actual coffin is done. You have been drinking with your buddies that you almost never see, having funk and staying up until the sun rises. The only consolation is that when it IS done, Roskilde is only weeks or days away. Unlike when Roskilde is over, and it's a full year until the next time we come back. For us the build itself, the planning, feelings, sweat and blood that goes into it, is our way of shortening the wait. Give us a little of Roskilde all year round
Now back to what actually happens at Roskilde.
I fully understand what you're saying about parts of the campground bonding is lost in the music. I remember my first three years, when the coffin hardly played at all. There WAS more bonding in the camp. But there is one aspect you're missing out on. I don't know if it's because you don't like the music being played at the parties, or what your reason is, but there is a hell of a lot of bonding going on when we roll around with our coffin. First of, it's with us in the camp. I can remember the look on Ole's (one of our camp members) face, when he saw the long parade of people dancing behind the coffin, some 400 people strong. He said ''what the hell have we done? look at these people dancing, kissing, and having fun! this is the best feeling I've ever had!'' It's like Christian said in a post here, the joy a musician gets when he see people enjoying his music. Thats the feeling we get when we see people enjoying what we've made. And we see random people begin to dance together, starting to kiss, and eventually leaving the party holding hands or just disappearing inn between two tents along the way. You see we create bonding as well. And not just us, almost everyone throwing a party. It's just different ways of bonding.
When you mention how this thing is getting out of control, I do agree with you!
When I first read your post, I actually got a feeling of anxiety rushing over me.
The main thought was ''have we taken this too far?''
Cause there is no denying it , the Coffin Blaster 3.0 is a monster.
It's HUGE! But the funny part is, it's actually not something we had to do.
The actual Coffin is only about 1/3 soundsystme. The rest is stuff we do for our own pleasure, and to keep the esthetics, proportions and actual size of a coffin.
The another 1/3 of it is storage for our beer, drinks, charging phones, a toolbox for fixing things, fuseholders, fire extinguisher etc. The last remaining 1/3 is simply empty and closed of rooms, only in place to give us the right shape, as mentioned before.
Our previous Coffin Blaster was actually supposed to be our last. But since our car died on the way down to Roskilde, and we barley got it there in the first place, we had no way of getting it home. So when we had to make a new one, we simply thought it felt like a waste to build it the same size. So we added a little more, to get all the features we wanted.
But I can promise you, this will be our last. It's built better the previous ones, - built to last.
It will not be any bigger. Like Saturnus said, it might get more tricked out, but for us half the point is to be able to roll around. And if it gets any bigger, that won't be possible.
I actually think that because we go on tour around the campsite, and don't stay in one place, we're not as big of a hassle to our neighbors either
Then to talk about what you said, when you said you don't want to camp close to a big soundsystem. Now this is something I understand very well. And we have actually talked a lot about this in our camp since we saw your post. We have decided to be nicer then ever this year
Not play as loud in the day, more chilling in the camp, and ''getting back to the roots''.
We have also thought it would be a good idea to buy some extra beers on the first day, and invite our neighbors to a little get-together. This way we can invite them to be open with us, and let us know if they think we're causing too much hassle for them. Hopefully this will make it be easier for them to tell us if we're playing too loud, and give everyone a better experience.
On a final note, I would look to back Saturnus idea about banning lead batteries.
I think that would be an amazing initiative, and in my opinion a way to lower the number of soundsystems, and make people more aware of power consumption, and follow Roskilde's lead on making ''green'' camps. And since the environmentally friendly image of Roskilde is so strong, this would be a great statement to make, while still letting people bring their soundsystems. I think it would be easy to enforce swell. Simply make it a rule, and by the entrance, check all the soundsystems passing by. Confiscate lead batteries, and spray an official stencil on the soundsystem. (I think a stencil would be better since it doesn't come of like a sticker, and can't be stolen) Then it's an easy task for the guards at Roskilde to check soundsystems as they walk around. As Saturnus says, if these LFP batteries are way more expensive, it will probably keep a lot of people from building a stereo in the first place.
Anyway, thanks to you all for a great thread, and I hope you'll let us know if The Coffin Camp is causing you a pain in the ass! And BTW, we'll be in our regular spot, C41, right by the C-tower. Just as a warning for those who don't want to camp too close to us
- but I hope you'll still come visit!
- Ace -
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Written on: 24.05.2011 10:07
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Christian
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@Ace ->
I think that it's a good idea that it's you guys that initiate the contact to the neighbors. If you live in a small camp close to you guys then you would probably think twice before asking you to turn down the music...I mean, if people are so inconsiderate that they play loud music all day long, then maybe they'll get mad and do something in revenge for criticizing your music? I know that you guys would never do that but I hope you understand that some people would be afraid of that.
Anyway, also first-timers at Roskilde probably wouldn't feel like complaining to an established camp like yours, so generally I think that you are doing the right thing when you go out to the camps near by and tell them that you are going to listen to them if anyone feels bothered by your music.
The part on creating a party where people meet and connect got me thinking of the times I've played guitar for strangers at Roskilde and seen couples look deeply into each others eyes and strangers suddenly holding hands and disappearing into the night...that's a great feeling. And yes, you are definately contributing to the social aspects of Roskilde, with the tours and the Zorba-dancing and everything (btw, do you still do the Zorba-thing? We have a greek dude in our camp so we should bring him if you do )
But it's kind of like the force in star wars (hopefully this is an analogy that we can agree on, heh)...there's a dark side to this and both responsibility and common sense must be used to avoid the dark side. I don't feel like you're a problem though...to me you're like sound system jedis. The reason that you were singled out in this topic is probably that you're a camp that people know here at the roskilde forum and also that the coffin blaster IS a lot bigger than it was the first years and that is very symptomatic of the issue with larger sound systems.
We actually had a pretty loud sound system in my camp last year and it was crazy fun to blast the Mario-theme at night and watch people dance around...or when we had a Baywatch-moment at 3 in the morning where me and 2 others took of our shirts and did the slow-running Baywatch-style, followed by life-saving CPR of course. Or when 10 people from the camp chased me around to the Benny Hill-theme...that was freaking awesome! But still, we've opted not to have a sound system this year...for me it was an easy decision, because even though it was fun I didn't want it to become the center of the party...the place where all the fun began. That's a personal choice, of course...I just wanted to share my story so I won't sound like a bitter old man that longs for the "good old days".
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Written on: 24.05.2011 13:10
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Kolja
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We actually had a pretty loud sound system in my camp last year and it was crazy fun to blast the Mario-theme at night and watch people dance around...or when we had a Baywatch-moment at 3 in the morning where me and 2 others took of our shirts and did the slow-running Baywatch-style, followed by life-saving CPR of course. Or when 10 people from the camp chased me around to the Benny Hill-theme...that was freaking awesome! But still, we've opted not to have a sound system this year...for me it was an easy decision, because even though it was fun I didn't want it to become the center of the party...the place where all the fun began. That's a personal choice, of course... I just wanted to share my story so I won't sound like a bitter old man that longs for the "good old days".
Well, looking at this thread, most of the people contributing seem not to be "bitter" old man. Though, most can be consindered "old" or veteran regardless of their post-count (and I salute Saturnus for his dedication for this forum).
I don't want to miss any of those moments Christian described, when people get crazy at night, or try to play crappy lovesongs on their mistuned guitar next to our tent at 4 a.m. And I remember the camp that played "Boten Anna" 24/7 for the whole week on a crappy stereo, it wasn't loud but anoying until we got together and emptied a bottle of cheap whisky.
I think it would be great if RF put out a green challenge to build "energy friendly" sound systems (Saturnus quotes solar panels and wind mills).
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Written on: 24.05.2011 16:23
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The Juice
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Ace: obviously, I'm using you guys as an illustrative example since you're so active on this forum. You're most definately not representative of the complete ignorance of some of the other major camps and the whole idea of going on tour is absolutely brilliant in every aspect. We could sure use more thoughtfulness and responsibility from most of the other major camps.
However, being thoughtful and responsible doesn't really solve the inflationary problem. Regardless of how considarete you are, your sound system is still enormous and very tough to compete with. Which means, that some will take up the competition, thus creating more competition, whereas others won't, thus crowding them out of a lot of the experience that is Roskilde.
But don't get me wrong, I really do appreciate what guys like you do for the festival and I wouldn't want Roskilde without camps like yours. In order to get a lot of the Roskilde-frenzy going, you do need huge sound systems and large camps with lots of nutjobs going crazy from time to time They just need to be balanced out so that the not so loud camps are also able to enjoy the festival the way the want.
EDIT: posting on this forum is absolutely terrible.
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Written on: 25.05.2011 17:01
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Patrick Sandberg
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i completely understand why some people think that it's a problem with the loud music, and the camps getting bigger. BUT, i don't think it's a good idea to ban lead batterys. I think that Roskilde should make some rules about camp size, AND inforce the rules.
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Written on: 25.05.2011 17:33
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Coldblooded
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i completely understand why some people think that it's a problem with the loud music, and the camps getting bigger. BUT, i don't think it's a good idea to ban lead batterys. I think that Roskilde should make some rules about camp size, AND inforce the rules.
How in the world do you think that rules about camp size would have any impact on the problem with large sound systems? You could have a 5 man camp with an insanely large soundsystem or, as in my case, a 35-50 man camp with hardly any electronic gear with them at all.
I for one would be extremely sad, if rules on camp size would mean that I'd have to break my camp up in tiny bits and pieces. We're always extremely friendly towards our neighbours, to the point where the camp actually absorbed neighbouring camps of different nationalities. We have a handful of Norwegians who gave their word on that they will return this year, because living in the Freud camp was so much cooler.
I think banning lead batteries is the way to go – it would also make sense from an environmental pov.
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Written on: 26.05.2011 16:48
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chr kors
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Written on: 26.05.2011 16:51
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chr kors
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Regler regler regler..
Det er Roskilde Festivalen vi snakker om her, så tag dog på Langeland folkens..
Jeg har aldrig nogensinde haft problemer med at falde i søvn på Roskilde, grundet larm fra noget anlæg. Efter 20 øl er det aldrig noget problem.
Hvis man ikke gider store anlæg på Roskilde, så må man ligge sig stille zonen.
Det er fair nok hvis der bliver lavet områder, hvor der ikke må spilles musik fra andet end boomblastere, men helt at udelukke store anlæg, det er totalt latterlig snak..
I omtaler store anlæg, som noget der får jorden til at gå under, slap dog af..
I øvrigt er samtlige af de 30 batterier jeg har til mit anlæg, nogen jeg har været ude og finde efter sidste års Festival.
Hvor mange folk er det iøvrigt også lige, der går ud og køber nye batterier til deres anlæg? Alle bruger jo nogen fra deres gamle Opel Kadett - og derfor kan jeg ikke lige se hvilken skade det gør på miljøet?
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Written on: 26.05.2011 17:52
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Rasmus123
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Chr Kors har du 30 bil batterier ? Får mig og mine venner står og mangler 4 bil batterier, evt vi kunne købe nogle af dig ? Og hvad er prisen stk'et ? Kunne være nice
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Written on: 26.05.2011 20:05
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EmilMark
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Regler regler regler..
Det er Roskilde Festivalen vi snakker om her, så tag dog på Langeland folkens..
Jeg har aldrig nogensinde haft problemer med at falde i søvn på Roskilde, grundet larm fra noget anlæg. Efter 20 øl er det aldrig noget problem.
Hvis man ikke gider store anlæg på Roskilde, så må man ligge sig stille zonen.
Det er fair nok hvis der bliver lavet områder, hvor der ikke må spilles musik fra andet end boomblastere, men helt at udelukke store anlæg, det er totalt latterlig snak..
I omtaler store anlæg, som noget der får jorden til at gå under, slap dog af..
I øvrigt er samtlige af de 30 batterier jeg har til mit anlæg, nogen jeg har været ude og finde efter sidste års Festival.
Hvor mange folk er det iøvrigt også lige, der går ud og køber nye batterier til deres anlæg? Alle bruger jo nogen fra deres gamle Opel Kadett - og derfor kan jeg ikke lige se hvilken skade det gør på miljøet?
In order for everyone to understand your posts, you are encouraged to write in English.
det kan selvfølgelig også være at du ikke kan læse/skrive Engelsk eftersom din kommentar bærer præg af at du tydeligvis ikke har læst hvad de andre har skrevet i denne tråd....
It's not the size of the soundsystem or anything there is the problem, but the fact that everyone think it is a MUST and a human right to have a huge soundsystem.. I think it is great to have some loud quality musik at times, but i don't whant 3 different songs from 4 different soundsystems at the same time! that is just messed up! And that is why we are talking about the possibility of baning lead batteries to make some of the people who think having a giant sound system is the coolest thing in the world to think twice before building it, and dragging it along to the camping site... 
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Written on: 26.05.2011 23:46
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chr kors
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Chr Kors har du 30 bil batterier ? Får mig og mine venner står og mangler 4 bil batterier, evt vi kunne købe nogle af dig ? Og hvad er prisen stk'et ? Kunne være nice
Muligvis, men jeg skal først have testet hvor mange af dem som virker 100%, og det er desværre en langsommelig proces. Kan derfor først sælge ud af dem, om 2 uger ca.
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Written on: 26.05.2011 23:52
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chr kors
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In order for everyone to understand your posts, you are encouraged to write in English.
det kan selvfølgelig også være at du ikke kan læse/skrive Engelsk eftersom din kommentar bærer præg af at du tydeligvis ikke har læst hvad de andre har skrevet i denne tråd....
It's not the size of the soundsystem or anything there is the problem, but the fact that everyone think it is a MUST and a human right to have a huge soundsystem.. I think it is great to have some loud quality musik at times, but i don't whant 3 different songs from 4 different soundsystems at the same time! that is just messed up! And that is why we are talking about the possibility of baning lead batteries to make some of the people who think having a giant sound system is the coolest thing in the world to think twice before building it, and dragging it along to the camping site...
Nej jeg forstår mig ikke særlig godt på det engelske sprog. Men jeg ved dog at ''encourage'', er en opfordring, og ikke en regel.
Ud fra hvad du skriver, skulle man tro at der var 70.000 store anlæg på roskilde.. den type anlæg som jeg opfatter som store, er der kun 20-30 stykker af på roskilde (2010). Så har lidt svært ved at se hvordan det lyd-inferno du beskriver, overhovedet kan opstå.
Jeg har kommet på roskilde i snart 10år, og synes aldrig ''Orange Feeling'', har været federe end den har været de sidste par år - og det er i høj grad pga. alle de anlæg folk slæber med. Der er mange flere vilde rave fester og events end der nogensinde har været, disse ville ikke kunne finde sted uden et ordentligt lyd system.
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