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The influx of sound systems are raping festival life


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Written on: 10.07.2012 21:06
Kaneda
Posts: 382
Schwing wrote:

First of all: Kaneda you might be right that the festival would be more like it was a couple of years ago if there weren't all those car stereos. This year was my third time to Roskilde Festival so I actually don't know how it was before the increase of sound systems.


Didn't expect so, and that was the point, really. Of course it would be Roskilde without a soundsystem (or 3) in every other camp, because only 6-7 years ago, it was still Roskilde with maybe 5-10 "large" (small compared to now) systems on the entire site. The size and number have been increasing exponentially.

Theme camps have been typical at Roskilde for decades. Party camps (as in, big enough parties to annoy more than their immediate neighbours), maybe 8 years. Van Damme Camp became (relatively) big around 2004. Promilleservice arrived in 2007, as far as I recall, and rose to real prominence in 2008. 2009 was when this soundsystem trend really took off, although Saturnus pioneered efficient quality sound at the festival quite a few years before that (calling Promilleservice efficient would be... a "slight" overstatement). In other words, large soundsystems aren't a basic right at Roskilde, not even a real tradition, except for a few select camps. If I were in one of those, I'd be crying "copycats!" icon_smile.gif

Kaneda - the part about 'Way to behave politely. Way to earn respect' - well that just end in another discussion about the hen and the egg. But as you also pointed out and that I mentioned myself - I wans't around all the time.


The point was really that this isn't the hen and the egg, because there's a very clear cause and effect at work here. icon_smile.gif Your soundsystem is the cause. Your neighbor's annoyance is the effect. In basic human interaction, the one causing the dispute is mostly the one who should politely fix things. Especially if he's very well aware that what he's doing will cause a dispute ("playing 24/7", "annoying" etc.).

As for respect vs. disrespect. Yes, you can demand respect. Mostly you'll have to. There's also respect that doesn't have to be earned. That's such a general and simple concept that it doesn't even have a special name. It's called "respect for other people". Really shouldn't have to be listed in a camp codex. If a person doesn't have it, they should stay the hell away from a festival.

Anno: You say that the days with room for everybody are long gone - and that is probably right, I don't know it myself hence my own three years of experience. But then also think about how society has changed too over the years. How many punks are left? Or those leftist freaks you speak about? And it might just be because I come from the suburbs of Copenhagen - But I was still a little astonished to see such a diversity of people when I vistited Roskilde Festival in 2010 icon_biggrin.gif


Getting off topic here, but whatever... Walking through the site at Roskilde in 2012 is no different from walking through Vesterbro in Copenhagen on any sunny day - except there are pretty much no foreigners or immigrants. It's exactly the same people. Putting on a purple glimmer wig, wearing a cape for a week, or making a quick mohawk doesn't make them more diverse. icon_smile.gif

But your question is a valid one. How many punks, goths and leftist freaks are left compared to the 90's? Answer: Fewer - there's not really any major subculture left today. But enough for you to have seen maybe 500 at Roskilde this year, if it were still the diverse environment it was 15 years ago.

Since Roskilde used to appeal directly to them (well, us), it was a nice mixture of mainstream youth, punks, goths, hiphoppers, viking-looking metalheads, leftists, semi-rastas, neo-hippies, techno geeks, flannel-wearing grunge people... A lot of that has been appropriated and diluted into fashion by the (sorry, can't avoid the dreaded term) hipsters, then by the mainstream. Which makes up 98-100% of the festival population now. Not even hipsters, just mainstream.

In other words, the festival wasn't the "mirror of society" it is now. Or if it was, it was an amplifying one. I.e., the festival population didn't reflect the distribution of lifestyles etc. outside the festival. It was targeted in a way that made it much more diverse than the rest of Denmark.

As for international guests, 2003 had 60% foreigners (that's 40% Danes). 15-20% from outside Scandinavia. 2011: 20% foreigners. 8% from outside Scandinavia.

That decline is for many of the reasons Anno mentions. It's not that the "alternative people" aren't there, just that the festival doesn't appeal to them. Which isn't all the festival's fault.

Just one example: The rising ticket price is necessary because booking bands costs more, but adjusting for consumer price inflation, as a punk in 1997, I sure wouldn't have been able to pay up the 1400DKK that the current price corresponds to - not to mention beer and food prices, and the inability to bring alcohol to the festival site that would last more than 5 minutes.

But then, I wouldn't be the target group either, considering reboot camp, gourmet food stands, luxury baths and fashion columns in the festival paper. icon_wink.gif And, considering I would be unable to escape the constant onslaught of crap mainstream "music", I wouldn't consider it either.

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Written on: 10.07.2012 21:11
Christian
Posts: 106
Schwing, you say in your previous post that if your loud music is pissing off everyone else then they had to ask you politely to turn it down or you would give them some smart-ass answer and turn it up louader?! Are you a complete retard?

If you are making people angry at you then you are the reason for their anger and therefore it is both normal and completely understandable that they direct their anger at you. You talk about respect having to be earned, but how the hell have you earned other peoples respect when you piss them off knowing that you are doing exactly that?

It is exactly this kind of behaviour that makes me pretty certain that I will find another use for the wire cutters I always bring to bite the tip of the guitar strings off in case I have to re-string my guitar. Or hey, maybe just a big tub of water would do the trick...I wouldn't mind fucking up the festival for people like you that doesn't mind fucking up MY festival.

You get what you give, and your behaviour will bite you in the ass some day. Probably not from me since I'm always in West, but at some point someone will punish your ridiculously selfish asshole-attitude. I hope you change it before it happens.
Written on: 10.07.2012 21:37
Saturnus
Posts: 3048
Btw, a side note here perhaps, or at least a too me mysterious trend, I saw a lot of smaller camps with quite big speakers where the speakers pointed away from the camp and into the street playing loud as hell with maybe 4-6 people under the gazeboo, and nobody in the street stopping by or even playing beer bowling or anything like that.

As a general rule, shouldn't camp stereos primarily play into your camp unless you have a street party going on? And trust me, a street party just don't happen by playing louder than the stereo across the street, especially if you seem generally disinterested in the music or starting a party yourself.
Written on: 10.07.2012 21:56
Christian Forslund
Posts: 342

anno wrote:

Schwing wrote:
Where is the 'there-is-room-for-everybody-mantra'?


There is no longer room for everybody on the camping grounds. Those days are long gone. These are the days of me-centric danish mainstream teenagers listening to mainstream music.

The punks, the weirdos, the oldtimers, the finnish metaldudes, all the foreigners and scandinavians, the goths, the reggae-listeners and the leftwing freaks are long since gone.

There are now two festivals.

1. The warm up, unbearable for anyone but the mainstream youth.

2. The festival, which is still, in part, about music.

This is evolution I guess. But it is also about choices made by the festival, about a lot of new festivals catering the individual music scenes, about the economic crisis, about music no longer being somthing you cherish and worship but a commodity you use and throw away, about me getting older.

They say More Than Music, but in saying that, they really make it Less About Music, and that is wrong. What used to be a celebration of music and diversity is now just another garden party. And it sucks. icon_cry.gif

I have also though about the festival being devided, and it seems to me that the fesival have made a concious choice in the dividing in their activities and bookings. Apollo stage, some of the midnight electronics concerts and a lot of the activities at the camping sites aimed at the parti-people, while fex the headliners and most other bands at the big stages aimed at the musicfans. This year it seems more divided than before. I'm not sure if it's a perfect mix.
TMaagaard wrote:

It's seems the general consensus is that this has reached its' limit and crossed it by a country mile, and I completely agree. We stayed in L106 just besides the cinema and had three different camps we had to complain. And we only had two direct neighbours. Usually I've been pretty good at sleeping through it but most of the times it was impossible. I think I would have had more energy during the music days and managing to see more concerts had this not been the case.

Did anyone else notice Camp Luksus close to the L tower? They had three HUGE soundsystems connected to each other pointing away from their own camp everytime I walked by. To be fair I don't know how much havoc they created, but they certainly had the capabilities to do so.

A friend and I joked about building a soundsystem as well, only it would have to play quiet, comfortable music like Perfume Genius.

By the way, I don't think the guys annoying the shit out of us are reading this, hopefully Roskilde Festival are.

As someone said, consensus on this forum does not equal consensus at the festival, since the sers here are not reprensentative. People here are generally older and more focussed on the musicpart of RF than the average festivalgoer and the 18 years old punk are almost absent from here except maybe Schwing who appearently only use common sense on demand.
Written on: 10.07.2012 22:43
PolyJulie
Posts: 7
Yes, It has gone too far icon_frown.gif

I know people putting up a tent in both the silent area and the noisy areas... Nobody knows how many people camp two places. And that will make it harder to find space for everybody in the years to come.

It's a darn shame that 95% of the music you hear on the campsite is not from bands playing at the festival. It's rare to find inspiration from sound systems playing at the camp site.

And what is also sad is that people are completely ignoring how the music playing from their sound systems affect the atmosphere on the campsite.
What is up with people playing loud music for dancing at times where everyone in and around the camp has a hangover and/or are sleeping?
Written on: 10.07.2012 22:43
chr kors
Posts: 54
Dont if i was the only one that saw the news on TV2 last night that regarded the bad economy of the danish festivals. Of the festivals mentioned only RF had a surplus.
A doctor from RUC said that the increase in festivals in recent years made it hard for each festival to brand itself - that is, on other things than music programme.

Roskilde has a music programme that differentiates itself from those of most other danish festivals but there can be no doubt that the warm up days, with campsite parties have become the main brand of Roskilde.
So it would be pretty stupid to ban soundsystems from Roskilde as it is part of Roskildes brand. The systems also makes people engange themselves in Roskilde in a way that is not seen at any other festivals.

That being said I have to agree that it has gone a bit too far.

- Too many systems plays out of the camp instead of into the camp
- Too many systems suck big time and are unpleasant to the ear

I think the festival should make a campaign in which they encourage people to point their systems into their camp (unless a big street party is going on). As well as encouring people to not just play loud because they can.
Perhaps their should also be an area where the music has to be played only at medium levels.
I think their always should be some areas in which people can play as loud as they want - some people actually want this.
Written on: 11.07.2012 12:59
Gitte Bjerring-Jensen
Posts: 75
Hi everyone.

First of all .. wow ! What a great discussion.

I am personally using a boombox - home made - My goal is, that music should be no louder than you can have a conversation next to it, without yelling to each other. That got totally spoiled when our nabours music/noice got turned on.. we called them "studenterhuerne"..

I do not have a subwoofer in my music box.. its only two speakers..

I do understand the critizismn. We camped in L.. near the - blue container - next to a camp who played so loud.. that after 20 hours of straight noice I gave up... moved my tent to - J - just to be able to get some sleep, and I must say it was fantastic!.

Yes I used my speakers down there, with no complains at all from the - square -.. only people coming up to me, stating that I was playing a lot of different kind of music. I asked in return, if they thought I played to loud, - No, No, its just fine -.

Personally I do not think it is the batteries fault at all, I think its the common egoismn who plays its cards well..

If you should make some kind of limitations, why not make it on the music box instead. Like max 4 speaker systems, without sub.. ? Or something like that..

Regards Gitte





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Written on: 11.07.2012 14:48
Anges
Posts: 309
One thing I really miss on these boards is a Roskilde Official posting that they follow these discussions and will consider the different issues. If the festival officials are interested in developing the festival with their guests this forum is a perfect place to start. Not that we shold be informed after every single meeting but... if they just would let us know that they are aware of our discussions. Like this fx.



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Written on: 11.07.2012 14:57
Martin Horn Pedersen
Official RF person
Posts: 1269
Anges wrote:

One thing I really miss on these boards is a Roskilde Official posting that they follow these discussions and will consider the different issues. If the festival officials are interested in developing the festival with their guests this forum is a perfect place to start. Not that we shold be informed after every single meeting but... if they just would let us know that they are aware of our discussions. Like this fx.




I dont know if this tread have beeing read(but think it will at some point). But the official Roskilde is reading on the board, not all post but they have a eye on the forum
Written on: 11.07.2012 15:20
Saturnus
Posts: 3048
Gitte Bjerring-Jensen wrote:

Hi everyone.

First of all .. wow ! What a great discussion.

I am personally using 2x 12v truck batteries (last 10 days on fully recharged batteries)ways 66 kg each. My goal is, that music should be no louder than you can have a conversation next to it, without yelling to each other. That got totally spoiled when our nabours music/noice got turned on.. we called them "studenterhuerne"..

I do not have a subwoofer in my music box.. its only two speakers..

I do understand the critizismn. We camped in L.. near the - blue container - next to a camp who played so loud.. that after 20 hours of straight noice I gave up... moved my tent to - J - just to be able to get some sleep, and I must say it was fantastic!.

Yes I used my speakers down there, with no complains at all from the - square -.. only people coming up to me, stating that I was playing a lot of different kind of music. I asked in return, if they thought I played to loud, - No, No, its just fine -.

Personally I do not think it is the batteries fault at all, I think its the common egoismn who plays its cards well..

If you should make some kind of limitations, why not make it on the music box instead. Like max 4 speaker systems, without sub.. ? Or something like that..

Regards Gitte



10 days on 2 truck batteries? That's immensely inefficient. Maybe your camp should be looking into DIY'ing something small and simple like a micro-boominator, that'd easily last over a month on a single battery one of your batteries with the usage you describe. (Or better still get a small light weight li-ion battery pack and a small solar cell, and you're set for the festival).
Written on: 11.07.2012 15:24
hed
Posts: 173
132 kg of battery power for 2 speakers? Or are you running a washing machine on those batteries as well? Doesn't sound very energy efficient or environmentally friendly. icon_smile.gif
You should get Saturnus or one of the other boombox nerds to help you out.
[Saturnus was on the case before my long post was posted]

Onto the main topic.
Hard to say how the problem can be solved in the best way.
But we definitely need some kind of enforcing of the rules at the gates/camping area for there to be any point in having the rules.

Usually, an incentive is the way to go if you want people to do what you want.
Maybe something like a separate waiting area/ entrance for people with music systems where someone official could test their max sound capacity and categorize them somehow through this? Could be stickers + reciepts in different colors or what not categorized by max dB. With a red (if that's the loudest) sticker you could only camp in certain party areas whilst a green (lowest max volume) you could camp pretty much everywhere. If you have a sound system you probably get tobthe festival early on and have a camp that can do the running for best tent spot for you. If controlled at the camping grounds during the festival the owner of the system should be able to show preferably both the sticker and the reciept. No sticker or reciept-> the sound system could be confiscated and returned to the rightful owner at the end of the festival or something like that.

The incentive part: each colored sticker could have an unique number, and there could be a raffle on say the last saturday where one or two winner in each category could walk away with maybe 2 or 4 tickets to next year's festival. If you've gotten warnings or whatever through the festival for your music, your sticker will be left out of the raffle. A "good things come to those who behave" kind of tough. The festival can definitely spare the tickets. I've talked to quite a few with yellow wrist bands this year and many if the wristbands seem to be pretty much thrown after you for minimal or no effort if you happen to know the right people.

If there are a couple of "special party camps" with own deals with the festival, these could get pre assigned spots so "regular campers" could choose to/not to camp right next to them.

Not thought this thoroughly through, just typing "out loud",so there is bound to be some holes in my "solution". You can't get rid of the tekno/ metal/ indie or whatever music you don't like, and I don't really think that a lot of people would want to get rid of entire genres from playing through the music system. You can't get rid of the douches/jerks/jackasses either, but you could limit the dB to downscale the problems they can cause.

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Written on: 11.07.2012 16:04
Ulrik Rasmussen
Posts: 1
I personally think that the problem is rarely the size and quality of the sound system, but the owners state of mind and lack of respect. Our camp also had a sound system this year, but haven't had any complaints from neighbors (at least that I know of). Generally, we direct the sound system towards our own camp, and only towards the "street" if we are playing beer croquet or actively encouraging people to join our party.

I think that in general, people act in reasonable ways with their sound system, respecting their fellow festival guests. I have, however, experienced a couple of incidents myself where people were acting incredibly rude. For instance, a couple of years ago, during the music days, our neighbors decided to hold a street party at 4am, playing 30 second snippets of hardstyle on an incredibly loud PA speaker pointing directly at our camp. Hardstyle isn't the most intelligent genre in the first place, and playing short snippets of songs not only makes it unbearable to listen to when trying to sleep, but also reveals that you are not in any way interested in the music, only in making a lot of noise. When I stuck my head out of the tent, I saw that only one person was actually dancing to the music, with the rest of the camp (3-4 guys) sitting passively BEHIND the speaker. When I politely asked them to turn down the music or at least turn the speaker away, I was basically told that "this is Roskilde Festival, so what did you expect?". After some time, I got them to turn down the music, but as soon as I returned to my tent, I heard one of the guys from the other camp say "just be an asshole to him!", after which they cranked up the music again. I want to stress that I was in no way impolite when I asked them to turn down the music.

The problem was not the loud sound system, but that the owners were acting like their right to party was more important than anything else. It is exactly the same mentality that makes people think that just because they are at a festival, it is ok to piss on, or even into, other peoples tents. It is also the same mentality that makes people dig the so called "swedish holes" where people fall into the mud and ruin all their clothes, and their evening with it. It is a misunderstanding of the "Roskilde mentality", where some people think that loosing their inhibitions makes it ok to behave as narcissistic jerks, instead of meeting new people and having fun WITH each other.

Basically, my point is: "Loud sound systems don't ruin peoples festival experience, people do" icon_smile.gif. I don't think restrictions will help, they are rarely met with understanding from the guests.

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Written on: 11.07.2012 22:05
Gitte Bjerring-Jensen
Posts: 75
hed wrote:

132 kg of battery power for 2 speakers? Or are you running a washing machine on those batteries as well? Doesn't sound very energy efficient or environmentally friendly. icon_smile.gif
You should get Saturnus or one of the other boombox nerds to help you out.
[Saturnus was on the case before my long post was posted]


Washing mashine sounds like a very good idea !.. icon_biggrin.gif Naaa, we are using the batteries to recharge phones and such as well. I just havent had time to look into more effecient ways ... I am considering a windmill icon_razz.gif - But that will be next years project !
Written on: 11.07.2012 22:07
Saturnus
Posts: 3048
Gitte Bjerring-Jensen wrote:

we are also recharging phones on the batteries too.. so not entirely music.. icon_smile.gif


There's enough for about 250 phone recharges in each battery so unless you're a large camp and everyone has wifi turned on constantly so you need recharging daily or more that's not really a problem either.
Written on: 11.07.2012 22:09
Gitte Bjerring-Jensen
Posts: 75
For my own case, I needed recharging daily.. yes we were this year 22 persons in our camp.. so it was running 24/7..
Written on: 11.07.2012 22:13
Gitte Bjerring-Jensen
Posts: 75
But arent we moving to far away from the topic ? .. For me its not the ammount of sound systems, its the volume ...
Written on: 11.07.2012 22:16
Saturnus
Posts: 3048
Gitte Bjerring-Jensen wrote:

For my own case, I needed recharging daily.. yes we were this year 22 persons in our camp.. so it was running 24/7..


We're drifting too far off topic but suffice to say that, yes, in my mind you're being very wasteful in you're speaker setup. And even with your mobile changing concerns covers a small 14-19W solar panel and one or two 1kg 18Ah li-ion would have been more than adequate.

ebay.com/itm/DC-12V-Portable-18000mAh-Li-ion-Super-Rechargeable-Battery-Pack
Written on: 11.07.2012 22:20
Gitte Bjerring-Jensen
Posts: 75
Saturnus wrote:

Gitte Bjerring-Jensen wrote:

For my own case, I needed recharging daily.. yes we were this year 22 persons in our camp.. so it was running 24/7..


We're drifting too far off topic but suffice to say that, yes, in my mind you're being very wasteful in you're speaker setup. And even with your mobile changing concerns covers a small 14-19W solar panel and one or two 1kg 18Ah li-ion would have been more than adequate.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/DC-12V-Portable-18000mAh-Li-ion-Super-Rechargeable-Battery-Pack-/150663276338?_trksid=p4340.m1850&_trkparms=aid%3D222002%26algo%3DSIC.FIT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D11%26meid%3D538986909313505530%26pid%3D100011%26prg%3D1005%26rk%3D2%26


Your more than welcome to give me ideas on developing a more effecient sound system.. (im pretty new in this business.. but can we takt it in private instead? Thanks.
Written on: 11.07.2012 22:23
gixbit
Posts: 274
There was no problem with sound systems at the caravan campicon_biggrin.gif

I passed the tent area many many times on my way to festival ground or the swimming lake. Of all the hundreds of songs that i heard from the sound systems 80 % were crap. Music from artist that never will be invited to Roskilde. I heard no reggae, nearly no metal, no rock, no prog, no soulmusic, no world music, no disco, no indie, and absolutley no punk. The only thing i heard was the lousy end of electronic mainstream or ironic hits on repeat.

On my way home from the festivalground in the middle of the night 100 % of the music played on the sound systems were shit. Just kids trying to outdo each other in volume. I guess it's somewhat okay if you have a party and dance to it. But if it's just 4-5 guys sitting around in there chairs trying to look cool it's pathetic.

Which concerts do these youngsters actually see? I never seem to bump into them in front of any stage.

Of course i know that there are people with sound systems who play "roskildemusic" out there to. But in clear minority.

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Written on: 11.07.2012 22:28
Saturnus
Posts: 3048
Gitte Bjerring-Jensen wrote:

Saturnus wrote:

Gitte Bjerring-Jensen wrote:

For my own case, I needed recharging daily.. yes we were this year 22 persons in our camp.. so it was running 24/7..


We're drifting too far off topic but suffice to say that, yes, in my mind you're being very wasteful in you're speaker setup. And even with your mobile changing concerns covers a small 14-19W solar panel and one or two 1kg 18Ah li-ion would have been more than adequate.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/DC-12V-Portable-18000mAh-Li-ion-Super-Rechargeable-Battery-Pack-/150663276338?_trksid=p4340.m1850&_trkparms=aid%3D222002%26algo%3DSIC.FIT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D11%26meid%3D538986909313505530%26pid%3D100011%26prg%3D1005%26rk%3D2%26


Your more than welcome to give me ideas on developing a more effecient sound system.. (im pretty new in this business.. but can we takt it in private instead? Thanks.



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Written on: 11.07.2012 22:30
Gitte Bjerring-Jensen
Posts: 75
It could actually be very interesting to make a statisic - on how many people actually are hearing the roskilde festival radio during the week at RF..

A couple o years ago.. you could hear the radio.. sound around the camp site.. I actually havent heard it once this year !.. (interesting)..
Written on: 11.07.2012 22:48
Christian Forslund
Posts: 342
gixbit wrote:

There was no problem with sound systems at the caravan campicon_biggrin.gif

I passed the tent area many many times on my way to festival ground or the swimming lake. Of all the hundreds of songs that i heard from the sound systems 80 % were crap. Music from artist that never will be invited to Roskilde. I heard no reggae, nearly no metal, no rock, no prog, no soulmusic, no world music, no disco, no indie, and absolutley no punk. The only thing i heard was the lousy end of electronic mainstream or ironic hits on repeat.

On my way home from the festivalground in the middle of the night 100 % of the music played on the sound systems were shit. Just kids trying to outdo each other in volume. I guess it's somewhat okay if you have a party and dance to it. But if it's just 4-5 guys sitting around in there chairs trying to look cool it's pathetic.

Which concerts do these youngsters actually see? I never seem to bump into them in front of any stage.

Of course i know that there are people with sound systems who play "roskildemusic" out there to. But in clear minority.

As I have noticed this year it seems that RF has been very divided into the partylovers and the musiclovers and your post point it out that the partygoers doesn't even listen to RF music at their camp, it might well be that a lot of them stays at their camp most of time even at the musicdays. Maybe RF now is too much more than music.
Written on: 11.07.2012 22:49
gixbit
Posts: 274
Gitte Bjerring-Jensen wrote:

It could actually be very interesting to make a statisic - on how many people actually are hearing the roskilde festival radio during the week at RF..

A couple o years ago.. you could hear the radio.. sound around the camp site.. I actually havent heard it once this year !.. (interesting)..


Our camp used to listen to it quite a lot. We don't anymore because the crap music and way to much talking. And the talk is in a commerical radio language. They seem to think that we who listens are idiots.
Written on: 11.07.2012 23:01
Saturnus
Posts: 3048
gixbit wrote:

Gitte Bjerring-Jensen wrote:

It could actually be very interesting to make a statisic - on how many people actually are hearing the roskilde festival radio during the week at RF..

A couple o years ago.. you could hear the radio.. sound around the camp site.. I actually havent heard it once this year !.. (interesting)..


Our camp used to listen to it quite a lot. We don't anymore because the crap music and way to much talking. And the talk is in a commerical radio language. They seem to think that we who listens are idiots.


Same here. We had it on maybe 3-4 hours total this year but found it utterly unbearable. Maybe we're just getting too old but it seemed to much more music nerdy before, and when it was talk it was relatively serious talk radio, instead of wierd game shows for prices it is nowadays.

Suddenly I feel old icon_biggrin.gif
Written on: 11.07.2012 23:52
Coldblooded
Posts: 1229
Saturnus, could you edit your link? It borks the layout.


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