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Southern rock/metal-day & metal line-up?


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Written on: 25.04.2012 17:40
weiss
Posts: 1261
Personly I find the sludge-package with Crowbar, Baroness, Red Fang, Weedeater & Hank 3 the most interesting of this years festival. Cool idea!

But what do you guys think about this years metal/hard rock line-up in general?
I'm a little disapointed about the lack of a big name on this years line up. Machine Head + Behemoth are great though..

Is there even any metalfans left on this forum at all?


[This article was edited 1 times, at last 25.04.2012 at 17:41.]
Written on: 25.04.2012 18:21
Martin Horn Pedersen
Posts: 1265
Well that bands do we take in the debat? Just so we agree? Can we agree on this list?

Machine Head
Nasum
Behemoth
Suicide Silence
Crowbar
Red Fang
Devildriver
Baroness
Warbringer
Weedeater
Liturgy
Cerekloth
Redwood Hill
The Cult
Today Is The Day
Hank 3 (only becores he is a part of the sorthrock day, I think he is off)

I think it is a ok line up.

I like you miss the big name, but Machine Head, The Cult, Devildriver and Behemoth is good booking of well knowen bands and a band like Red Fang is on my must see list.

But have a hard time seeing the name that well gather ppl on Orange. I guees that Machine Head and The Cult might end up playing there but it will only be half full...
Written on: 25.04.2012 18:38
Christian Forslund
Posts: 341
At Roskilde I mainly listen to two genres: Indierock (maybe that is just labelled rock) and HardRock/Metal.

2010 was great for Indie with bands like Muse, Kasabian, Gorillaz and Nephew, but really weak with regards to metal.
Last year was the opposite, where I liked concerts with Iron Maiden, Mastodon and the smaller Electric Wizard and Ghost but not that much in the other Genre.

This year seems to be somewhere in between. I want to see Machine head, Bohemoth and Devildriver and maybe Baroness and Red Fang (and think Nasum is just awful noise).
I also want to see Cult, but I don't see them as metal.

I would like a metal headliner, but I can see that most big names are ruled out and a lot of them because they play other places in Denmark, so it's more likely that we get a indierockheadliner.
I think RF always should focus on getting a metalheadliner (maybe they were just too late in trying to book f.ex one of the Copenhell headliners). But machinehead seems to be just as worth a headliner spot as Mastodon last year (great concert by the way).
Written on: 25.04.2012 18:43
Martin Horn Pedersen
Posts: 1265
Christian Forslund wrote:

At Roskilde I mainly listen to two genres: Indierock (maybe that is just labelled rock) and HardRock/Metal.

2010 was great for Indie with bands like Muse, Kasabian, Gorillaz and Nephew, but really weak with regards to metal.
Last year was the opposite, where I liked concerts with Iron Maiden, Mastodon and the smaller Electric Wizard and Ghost but not that much in the other Genre.

This year seems to be somewhere in between. I want to see Machine head, Bohemoth and Devildriver and maybe Baroness and Red Fang (and think Nasum is just awful noise).
I also want to see Cult, but I don't see them as metal.

I would like a metal headliner, but I can see that most big names are ruled out and a lot of them because they play other places in Denmark, so it's more likely that we get a indierockheadliner.
I think RF always should focus on getting a metalheadliner (maybe they were just too late in trying to book f.ex one of the Copenhell headliners). But machinehead seems to be just as worth a headliner spot as Mastodon last year (great concert by the way).


Plz dont call Muse indie...

And if you will not call the The cult heavy metal/hard rock what will you then call it?

Other then that, I think your are right
Written on: 25.04.2012 18:48
Christian Forslund
Posts: 341
Martin Horn Pedersen wrote:

Christian Forslund wrote:

At Roskilde I mainly listen to two genres: Indierock (maybe that is just labelled rock) and HardRock/Metal.

2010 was great for Indie with bands like Muse, Kasabian, Gorillaz and Nephew, but really weak with regards to metal.
Last year was the opposite, where I liked concerts with Iron Maiden, Mastodon and the smaller Electric Wizard and Ghost but not that much in the other Genre.

This year seems to be somewhere in between. I want to see Machine head, Bohemoth and Devildriver and maybe Baroness and Red Fang (and think Nasum is just awful noise).
I also want to see Cult, but I don't see them as metal.

I would like a metal headliner, but I can see that most big names are ruled out and a lot of them because they play other places in Denmark, so it's more likely that we get a indierockheadliner.
I think RF always should focus on getting a metalheadliner (maybe they were just too late in trying to book f.ex one of the Copenhell headliners). But machinehead seems to be just as worth a headliner spot as Mastodon last year (great concert by the way).


Plz dont call Muse indie...

And if you will not call the The cult heavy metal/hard rock what will you then call it?

Other then that, I think your are right

I'm not that good with genres, an I have started to understand that Indie might be a little misused, so lets just call it rock.

Cult might be hardrock or punkrock (I thought of Bad religion from last year, when I heard Cult on spotfy) but not heavy enough to be metal.
Written on: 25.04.2012 19:08
The Rehabilitation of Luis Suarez
Posts: 2506
Christian Forslund wrote:

Martin Horn Pedersen wrote:

Christian Forslund wrote:

At Roskilde I mainly listen to two genres: Indierock (maybe that is just labelled rock) and HardRock/Metal.

2010 was great for Indie with bands like Muse, Kasabian, Gorillaz and Nephew, but really weak with regards to metal.
Last year was the opposite, where I liked concerts with Iron Maiden, Mastodon and the smaller Electric Wizard and Ghost but not that much in the other Genre.

This year seems to be somewhere in between. I want to see Machine head, Bohemoth and Devildriver and maybe Baroness and Red Fang (and think Nasum is just awful noise).
I also want to see Cult, but I don't see them as metal.

I would like a metal headliner, but I can see that most big names are ruled out and a lot of them because they play other places in Denmark, so it's more likely that we get a indierockheadliner.
I think RF always should focus on getting a metalheadliner (maybe they were just too late in trying to book f.ex one of the Copenhell headliners). But machinehead seems to be just as worth a headliner spot as Mastodon last year (great concert by the way).


Plz dont call Muse indie...

And if you will not call the The cult heavy metal/hard rock what will you then call it?

Other then that, I think your are right

I'm not that good with genres, an I have started to understand that Indie might be a little misused, so lets just call it rock.

Cult might be hardrock or punkrock (I thought of Bad religion from last year, when I heard Cult on spotfy) but not heavy enough to be metal.


I'd stay far away from any punk references when talking about The Cult, exept they were influenced early on by some of the punk culture. I wouldn't say their music has much influences from punk.

It's pure rock n' roll, hard rock is probably the best category if we must narrow it down. In my opinion one of most overlooked bands in rock n' roll history, even though they achieved fame they are not mentioned with the greats. Which I feel is a crying shame!

Can't wait to see them.

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Written on: 25.04.2012 19:51
Macho
Posts: 153
I like the metal program. My personal faves are DevilDriver, Suicide Silence and Machine Head. Nice bookings in my book.
I soothes the worst metal withdrawal symptoms at Copenhell in June, so I can focus on other music at Roskilde as well.
Written on: 25.04.2012 22:39
Lord Beef Jerky
Posts: 1506
Roskilde canøt have "huge" metal names every year. Especially not with CopenHell "stealing" a lot of the opportunities. They can however make it up with the smaller names, and Roskilde's metal programme this year is quite solid IMO. Last year it consisted mainly of a lot of second wave metalcore bands. A very closed genre, that hasn't evolved much since it began, and hopefully soon will die out. This year it's a much more diverse metal programme, going from old school thrash to grind, and most important of all - it's quality. The sludge-day is a great idea, perhaps the best in this year's programme altogether, but don't forget your dosis of Nasum and Today Is The Day either!
Written on: 25.04.2012 22:51
weiss
Posts: 1261
Lord Beef Jerky wrote:

Roskilde canøt have "huge" metal names every year. Especially not with CopenHell "stealing" a lot of the opportunities. They can however make it up with the smaller names, and Roskilde's metal programme this year is quite solid IMO. Last year it consisted mainly of a lot of second wave metalcore bands. A very closed genre, that hasn't evolved much since it began, and hopefully soon will die out. This year it's a much more diverse metal programme, going from old school thrash to grind, and most important of all - it's quality. The sludge-day is a great idea, perhaps the best in this year's programme altogether, but don't forget your dosis of Nasum and Today Is The Day either!


hmm well I'm kinda think the opposite of you regarding last year which I found very, very diverse. Metalcore? naa last year had: 1349, Iron Maiden, Ghost, Soilwork, Killing Joke, Autopsy, Mastodon, Kylesa, Eyehategod and yea of course BMTH.. these are all very diverse names.

This year has mostly a focus on sludge with a couple of extreme bands. Not very diverse if you ask me.

But still fine names. Warbringer, Machine Head, Behemoth, DevilDriver are all fantastic names. Nasum doesn't make my day though icon_smile.gif

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Written on: 25.04.2012 23:01
The Rehabilitation of Luis Suarez
Posts: 2506
All we need is some grunge music with Kizz icon_biggrin.gif
Written on: 25.04.2012 23:03
Lord Beef Jerky
Posts: 1506
weiss wrote:

Lord Beef Jerky wrote:

Roskilde canøt have "huge" metal names every year. Especially not with CopenHell "stealing" a lot of the opportunities. They can however make it up with the smaller names, and Roskilde's metal programme this year is quite solid IMO. Last year it consisted mainly of a lot of second wave metalcore bands. A very closed genre, that hasn't evolved much since it began, and hopefully soon will die out. This year it's a much more diverse metal programme, going from old school thrash to grind, and most important of all - it's quality. The sludge-day is a great idea, perhaps the best in this year's programme altogether, but don't forget your dosis of Nasum and Today Is The Day either!


hmm well I'm kinda think the opposite of you regarding last year which I found very, very diverse. Metalcore? naa last year had: 1349, Iron Maiden, Ghost, Soilwork, Killing Joke, Autopsy, Mastodon, Kylesa, Eyehategod and yea of course BMTH.. these are all very diverse names.

This year has mostly a focus on sludge with a couple of extreme bands. Not very diverse if you ask me.

But still fine names. Warbringer, Machine Head, Behemoth, DevilDriver are all fantastic names. Nasum doesn't make my day though icon_smile.gif


Well, it was better than I remember, when you put it that way... but why book Bring Me The Horizon, Underoath, Parkway Drive and Soilwork (sorry, but I can't keep myself from grouping these guys with the rest.... I think they're THAT bad)? In all honesty all I cared about from the last year's metal programme was Mastodon, Iron Maiden, Ghost and 1349. This year we have Machine Head, Devildriver, Nasum, Today Is The Day, Red Fang, Crowbar, Baroness, Weedeater and Behemoth. Definitely more spread out than last year IMO, and much less crap (hehe).
Written on: 25.04.2012 23:09
Coldblooded
Posts: 1228
You are all forgetting the mighty Electric Wizard who stepped in instead of Dååth last year. That was one of the better replacements I've seen, and one hell of a show icon_smile.gif
Written on: 26.04.2012 11:52
Aleg-One
Posts: 1748
While I agree on last year, it was a bit overkill to have both BMTH, Underoath and PWD on the bill compared to the lack of diversity among the other metal genres if you're not keen on modern metal(core). But imagine if you don't like southern metal (I know, it's hard to do icon_biggrin.gif) .. Then this years metal-programme would suck monkeyballs.

With only one modern core-act (Suicide Silence) and others, more true to the core-genre (Trash Talk, Today is The Day), fans of this genre would be pretty pissed icon_smile.gif But since almost every metalhead in Denmark is fond of sludge and stoner metal, then this year is pretty awesome to most.
Written on: 26.04.2012 12:14
Christian Forslund
Posts: 341
What is 'Core', I've seen suffix used for all kinds of metalgenres like Deathcore (versus deathmetal) and some guy complaining that there was no mathcore in last years announcement.

But what separated the 'Core'-metal from other kinds of metal.
Written on: 26.04.2012 12:24
The Rehabilitation of Luis Suarez
Posts: 2506
I wish we could stick to rock, hard rock, heavy metal, metal and extreme metal (or whatever for the hardest stuff)

all these genres are just annyoing. To me off course, just speaking my mind like.
Written on: 26.04.2012 17:11
Lord Beef Jerky
Posts: 1506
Christian Forslund wrote:

What is 'Core', I've seen suffix used for all kinds of metalgenres like Deathcore (versus deathmetal) and some guy complaining that there was no mathcore in last years announcement.

But what separated the 'Core'-metal from other kinds of metal.


Not that I'm the expert, but supossedly the "core" genres aren't exactly metal, but have evolved from punk. Makes perfect sense when you think about hardcore bands like Hatebreed... it sounds like a more violent version of classic punkbands, than it sounds like classic metalbands.
Written on: 26.04.2012 20:39
weiss
Posts: 1261
Lord Beef Jerky wrote:

Christian Forslund wrote:

What is 'Core', I've seen suffix used for all kinds of metalgenres like Deathcore (versus deathmetal) and some guy complaining that there was no mathcore in last years announcement.

But what separated the 'Core'-metal from other kinds of metal.


Not that I'm the expert, but supossedly the "core" genres aren't exactly metal, but have evolved from punk. Makes perfect sense when you think about hardcore bands like Hatebreed... it sounds like a more violent version of classic punkbands, than it sounds like classic metalbands.


What Mr. Lord said
Written on: 27.04.2012 11:03
Christian Forslund
Posts: 341
So what you are saying is that metalcore and other -core is not really metal but just punk trying to sound angry enough to be metal.

Written on: 27.04.2012 12:47
weiss
Posts: 1261
Christian Forslund wrote:

So what you are saying is that metalcore and other -core is not really metal but just punk trying to sound angry enough to be metal.




The core of "Core" comes from the hardcore-scene related to the punkscene more than the metalscene. Then you got bands like Killswitch Engage and such playing metalcore which is a mix of the technique used and played in the metalscene and the core (hardcore related to the punkscene)

A little difficult I know.
Written on: 27.04.2012 13:28
Emil Asbjørn Madsen
Posts: 93
Coldblooded wrote:

You are all forgetting the mighty Electric Wizard who stepped in instead of Dååth last year. That was one of the better replacements I've seen, and one hell of a show icon_smile.gif


Am I the only one thinking the sound was quite bad at that show? I couldn't hear the singer at all...


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