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Written on: 14.05.2009 12:23
Morten Flyvholm Iversen
Posts: 22
Hello everybody! My camp this year, which through the years has grown to a pretty respectable size of like 30 people, thought it was time to get a real flag for representation!

But even though we have a carpenter in the camp, we don't know what would be best suited for a flag pole, does anyone have some idea for a BIG flagpole? something robust and something which does not cost a million.. Links and suggestions are very much appreciated!

Our camp will be named Vi Hamrer! (up to you to guess why) so if some of you flag-masters feel the need to come and inspect the final product and get a beerbong you can feel free to do so icon_biggrin.gif

Thanks in advance, Morten.
Written on: 14.05.2009 12:28
Limabeancross
Posts: 1426
We will probably just gaffa tape some pavillion poles together and gaffa tape that to our pavillion. But I'm presuming that you mean big, big.

Does anyone remember that camp in West last year that had the really tall flag pole with lights on the top that changed colour and a strobe? That looked pretty sturdy.
Written on: 14.05.2009 12:28
Jim Daggerthuggert
Posts: 637
Morten Flyvholm Iversen skrev:

Hello everybody! My camp this year, which through the years has grown to a pretty respectable size of like 30 people, thought it was time to get a real flag for representation!

But even though we have a carpenter in the camp, we don't know what would be best suited for a flag pole, does anyone have some idea for a BIG flagpole? something robust and something which does not cost a million.. Links and suggestions are very much appreciated!

Our camp will be named Vi Hamrer! (up to you to guess why) so if some of you flag-masters feel the need to come and inspect the final product and get a beerbong you can feel free to do so icon_biggrin.gif

Thanks in advance, Morten.


Many people use fishing rods. The really large ones. And typicaly a 5-3-1 structure. With Five poles at the bottom, taped with three and then one with the flag, that will give 10-12 meters.
Written on: 14.05.2009 12:48
Saturnus
Posts: 3047
The best way is with a carbonfibre tube of a suitable length secured to the a 2 meter long 4-by-4 dug 1 meter into the ground. That's what the camp I'm usually in use.

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Written on: 14.05.2009 12:49
Deleted user Last year i bought my pole from these guys, which was the cheapest I could find at the time.

http://stores.ebay.co.uk/Skyblue-Leisure

They have up to 9 meters. That enough for you guys?

Otherwise I'd suggest getting a 9 meter pole and building something sturdy to extend it. Keep in mind if you got more than about 6 meters you're gonna need guy ropes as well, or the wind will cause some trouble for you.
Written on: 14.05.2009 12:51
B.
Posts: 656
Jim Daggerthuggert wrote:

Many people use fishing rods. The really large ones. And typicaly a 5-3-1 structure. With Five poles at the bottom, taped with three and then one with the flag, that will give 10-12 meters.

We've done this a couple of times but in a 6,3,1 configuration. You'll indeed get to 10-14 meters that way, depending on the length of the poles used and the size and weight of your flags.

http://i42.tinypic.com/22ki68.jpg

The guy holding the flagpole is 2m tall.

It's not cheap though, each segment is between 6 and 30 Euro, depending on the length. We started out with a 3,1 configuration and expanded the next year to the 6,3,1 configuration. You'll also need a lot of space (or cooperative neighbours) for your support lines. We used 2x3 lines (just below where the poles 6 to 3 and 3 to 1 connect to each other).

The only taller flagpole I've seen the last years that's taller then ours is the Jimi Hendrix flagpole.
Written on: 14.05.2009 13:11
Morten Flyvholm Iversen
Posts: 22
Nice, lots of useful stuff here, i don't we'll be going for a flag pole record, we just want something which is not 2 meters tall and can't be seen from the neighbour camp. I think we might order the 6 or 8 meter pole from ebay, that sounds pretty reasonable and they aren't all that expensive.
Written on: 14.05.2009 13:17
Deleted user Apparently these guys only send to the UK. Sorry for not checking this earlier. It's basically the same thing as a fishing pole though, I'm sure you can find a good deal in Denmark somewhere.
Written on: 14.05.2009 13:23
Morten Flyvholm Iversen
Posts: 22
Oh, crap! We thought about fishing poles, but they are so extremely thin in the end and cost the triple amount because of brands and all that useles stuff.
Written on: 14.05.2009 13:41
Jim Daggerthuggert
Posts: 637
Morten Flyvholm Iversen skrev:

Oh, crap! We thought about fishing poles, but they are so extremely thin in the end and cost the triple amount because of brands and all that useles stuff.


Fishing poles dosn't have to be expensive. Here is for 47,50 dkr

http://www.afi.dk/product_info.php?cPath=5_31&products_id=1038&osCsid=146ea3550666891993356263726d420b

It's 3 meters long. 10 of those will give you the 12 meters, connceted, and will cost you less than 500 dkr. Wich was the prise in in dkr for the flag pole.
Written on: 14.05.2009 13:43
Deleted user
Jim Daggerthuggert wrote:

Morten Flyvholm Iversen wrote:

Oh, crap! We thought about fishing poles, but they are so extremely thin in the end and cost the triple amount because of brands and all that useles stuff.


Fishing poles dosn't have to be expensive. Here is for 47,50 dkr

http://www.afi.dk/product_info.php?cPath=5_31&products_id=1038&osCsid=146ea3550666891993356263726d420b

It's 3 meters long. 10 of those will give you the 12 meters, connceted, and will cost you less than 500 dkr. Wich was the prise in in dkr for the flag pole.



22+5 quid is not 500dkk O.o

Not these days anyway....
Written on: 14.05.2009 13:46
Jim Daggerthuggert
Posts: 637
Emilius skrev:

Jim Daggerthuggert skrev:

Morten Flyvholm Iversen skrev:

Oh, crap! We thought about fishing poles, but they are so extremely thin in the end and cost the triple amount because of brands and all that useles stuff.


Fishing poles dosn't have to be expensive. Here is for 47,50 dkr

http://www.afi.dk/product_info.php?cPath=5_31&products_id=1038&osCsid=146ea3550666891993356263726d420b

It's 3 meters long. 10 of those will give you the 12 meters, connceted, and will cost you less than 500 dkr. Wich was the prise in in dkr for the flag pole.



22+5 quid is not 500dkk O.o

Not these days anyway....


You are right, and it will probly only reach 7 meters, when taped together. I'm a librarian, not a mathematician dammit!
Written on: 14.05.2009 13:54
Morten Flyvholm Iversen
Posts: 22
Clever, this is why i ask you guys, you got all the answers! Now a more technical question, how the hell do you connect the thin end of a fishing pole with the thick of the next? just tape, won't that be awkward?
Written on: 14.05.2009 14:00
Deleted user
Morten Flyvholm Iversen wrote:

Clever, this is why i ask you guys, you got all the answers! Now a more technical question, how the hell do you connect the thin end of a fishing pole with the thick of the next? just tape, won't that be awkward?


Beats me, I've only ever used one pole.

If you want the single pole solution, I suggest you email skyblue and ask for an arrangement to ship to Denmark. If that doesn't work, search for an ebay supplier who will. Maybe if you ask nicely, you can find someone *ahem* on the forum in the UK who you can send it to, and they would bring it for you at festival(?) I'd offer to do this if I weren't leaving the UK quite soon...
Written on: 14.05.2009 14:07
Morten Flyvholm Iversen
Posts: 22
Ahem, yeah i found one alright, a 6m pole to a neat 6.99£ price, however the price is 25£ for shipping to DK icon_razz.gif
Written on: 14.05.2009 15:55
Saturnus
Posts: 3047
Morten Flyvholm Iversen skrev:

Ahem, yeah i found one alright, a 6m pole to a neat 6.99£ price, however the price is 25£ for shipping to DK icon_razz.gif


Group buy perhaps? I can't imagine shipping being much more expensive for several of these, maybe others would like one as well?
Written on: 14.05.2009 16:07
Deleted user Yeah and it's still cheaper than 500 dkk.
Written on: 14.05.2009 16:36
B.
Posts: 656
Morten Flyvholm Iversen wrote:

Clever, this is why i ask you guys, you got all the answers! Now a more technical question, how the hell do you connect the thin end of a fishing pole with the thick of the next? just tape, won't that be awkward?

The way we did it: for the bottom we made 3 sets of 3, taped together with Gaffa and ty-raps, the top meter or so then slides into the bottom of the next (middle) 3, thickened with Gaffa as needed. The top pole slides on top of the 3 middle poles the same way. Unfortunately I have no detail photo's but I can't keep the following photo from you:

http://i39.tinypic.com/sghimu.jpg

Look at the size and yet elegance of this construction!
Written on: 15.05.2009 14:26
Limabeancross
Posts: 1426
That's a cool flag pole. Out of interest, where was that?
Written on: 15.05.2009 15:33
Deleted user hmmmmm, I'd better resist the urge to one-up this one. Could get too expensive. For now.


These carbon fiber tubes/rods you talk about, are they the solid ones? ie not hollow?
Written on: 15.05.2009 15:36
Saturnus
Posts: 3047
Emilius skrev:

hmmmmm, I'd better resist the urge to one-up this one. Could get too expensive. For now.


These carbon fiber tubes/rods you talk about, are they the solid ones? ie not hollow?


Those I talk about are hollow ones, you can buy them in flagpole or marine accesory stores as they're used as both flagpoles and masts on small boats. Anyways the other ideas here seems better choices to transport though, so unless you live near Roskilde I'd go with the other options.
Written on: 15.05.2009 15:41
Deleted user True, and if I lay aside the cock-measuring factor for now, I'm perfectly happy with my puny 6 meter flagpole.
Written on: 15.05.2009 18:20
B.
Posts: 656
LiamC wrote:

That's a cool flag pole. Out of interest, where was that?

Right outside entrance 10. We went from a 1 stage 5m pole in '04, to a 2 stage 8m pole in '05 and a 3 stage 10~12m pole in '06.
We didn't bother the last two years because of the rain in '07 and the small size of our camp in '08.
Written on: 15.05.2009 18:23
B.
Posts: 656
Emilius wrote:

These carbon fiber tubes/rods you talk about, are they the solid ones? ie not hollow?


We used they hollow type. When all segments are 'folded' inside each other the pole is only about 1.20~1.30m long. We never used the top segments.
The combined topsegments of the lower poles slide into the bottom segment of the pole(s) in the next segment to make a sturdy connection.
Written on: 29.05.2009 13:58
Andiech
Posts: 211
Why not go mr. fancypants in the camp? icon_wink.gif

http://www.rusta.se/flaggstang_6_2_meter_cp62951134.html

The real deal icon_cool.gif


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